Posted on 02/04/2014 2:11:03 PM PST by ColdOne
Justice Antonin Scalia predicts that the Supreme Court will eventually authorize another a wartime abuse of civil rights such as the internment camps for Japanese Americans during World War II.
"You are kidding yourself if you think the same thing will not happen again," Scalia told the University of Hawaii law school while discussing Korematsu v. United States, the ruling in which the court gave its imprimatur to the internment camps.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
My guess, then, is they don't even make it through page 5 of their list before SHTF.
No, there wasn't a 'reasonable' suspicion. It was actually driven hard as a land and property grab by corrupt California politicians and real estate speculators.
There were more Japanese people in Hawaii than California, yet they didn't intern them all there.
The first was opened on Sand Island in Honolulu Harbor just two days after Pearl Harbor. When it became too small to accomodate all the detainees, it was closed and the population was transferred to a new camp in Honolulu Gulch.
Earl Warren, then California Attorney General and later Chief Justice, led the push for nationwide detainment. However, except for Hawaii and the Left Coast states, the local authorities were never enthusiastic about the idea and even less cooperative and the project never came to full fruition.
A grand uncle of mine actually led resistance to the idea in his locality and was instrumental in getting many of the detainees in the Topaz camp not to return to California but to re-establish their businesses locally. My mother tells me when she visited him as a young lady, he was treated like royalty by the local Japanese-American community for what he had done for them.
Say what you want about the Japanese, but ingratitude is NOT one of their faults.
“Also, the book documents how a lot of 1st generation Japanese would get sent back for education in Japan, an education that included a large dose of Japanese militarism, such that there was a real question about their loyalties.”
Some neisei had maintained close ties to the ancestral homeland and a few had a conflict of loyalties. I remember a caller to George Putnam’s radio program who had been a Marine fighting in the Pacific. In one battle he encountered a Japanese Imperial soldier who had been one of his classmates in high school in Los Angeles. Surely a rare occurrence but in the atmosphere of a major war even one event like that would quickly become infamous.
You assume much.
Batann Death March. Notice civilian clothes.
These men were not at war either, until war was made upon them.
No they didn't intern them all in Hawaii, but they did intern some. 1/3 of the island was Japanese. But it's an island. They didn't have easy access to the mainland. The Japanese in California did, and that's probably the basis of the decision.
Our "politically correct" failure to segregate the muslims in the military during our War on Terror in the middle east resulted in American deaths. 13 dead and 30 wounded by the Fort Hood muslim.
Well I call BS on trying to look back 70 years and impugn the motives of Congress during a time of war. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
What are we going to do about it when the ballon goes up
That ballon has left the building, and conservative wussies wil do NOTHING as always. They will talk about it and expend hot aair while hide undet some rock.
Yeah, and I suppose you want to blame Irish Americans for IRA bombings. You really don’t have a basis for your argument.
I free that is the truth of the matter!
Remember- if the government can do it to them they can do it to you.
Even if the government can't do it today, doesn't mean they won't do it tommorrow if the wrong people get in office.
What error did the author make?
“The late U.S. Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, who was Japanese-American, was not among those sent to the camps but was declared an ‘enemy alien’.”
Right from the article.
“Where were the German and Italian internment camps?”
There were a lot more people of German and Italian descent here than there were Japanese, some going back the very beginnings of these united States of America. And, of course, there was that little business of a sneak attack...
I misread something, perhaps I picked up my mistake when I was reading other articles to form my response, I do wonder why he brought up Inouye at all, the man went from college to the Army.
I have a pretty good collection of Loony Tunes from the day. Racist? You bet, but I still laugh myself silly watching them. I guess I’m just insensitive.
“Where were the German camps?
Are you kidding?
Wikipedia:”
Thanks for the link. My grandfather was a child of German immigrants, his parents immigrated from Germany in the early 1900’s, they both passed away before WWII. My grandfather worked in a plant that manufactured engines for air force fighter and bomber planes during WWII, his work was building and servicing the engines. He was in his mid 30’s at the time raising a family. According to my grandmother he apparently never got bothered by the government even though he had an easily recognizable German last name. Strange. Never heard much about those camps and their existence.
Thanks for the note.
You are younger than I. My grandfather came over in the early teens, my grandmother a few years later. She rode a train from New York (Ellis Island, of course) all the way to North Dakota, terrified-—she and my grandpa had met only once, when he visited Germany with his cousin who was searching for a bride...and my grandpa scored while his cousin came up empty...
Anyway Grandpa showed up late for the train, missed it by a minute or so, and chased after it from stop to stop in his horse-pulled wagon. Thirty or 40 miles down the rail he looked in the little depot (train was gone again) and just about didn’t see the tiny, shivering, weeping woman sitting in a corner with a bag over her head.
They were married for over 50 years, separated only when Grandma died.
But to your point: my grandparents weren’t bothered either but they had been in the country, on their farm, for 30 years by that time. And right from the get-go they abjured the German language, German dress and customs-—they wanted to be Americans and they were quickly accepted as such.
Still both world wars were times of tension and concern. My mom’s cousin was in Hitler’s army until he slipped away one night...ended up a self-made millionaire in Canada...those were men and women back then, the real thing, you know?
I believe there was an internment camp for Italians near me in Pittsburg, California. Infact, I believe Joe DiMaggio parents and not sure him though were interned. However, his father believed it was the right things to do because of the war.
Oh, I can’t believe that... snicker...
I’ll have to get a copy and read it.
Thanks folks.
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