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NSA Official: 'We Are Now a Police State'
CNS News ^ | December 19, 2013 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 01/17/2014 2:35:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Last year, high-ranking NSA official Bill Binney said, “We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.” Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state. Binney told Washington’s Blog on Wednesday that: “The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement. [See the 2 slides below].”

“These slides give the policy of the DOJ/FBI/DEA etc. on how to use the NSA data. In fact, they instruct that none of the NSA data is referred to in courts – cause it has been acquired without a warrant.” “So, they have to do a ‘Parallel Construction’ and not tell the courts or prosecution or defense the original data used to arrest people. This I call: a ‘planned programed perjury policy’ directed by US law enforcement.” “And, as the last line on one slide says, this also applies to ‘Foreign Counterparts.’” “This is a total corruption of the justice system not only in our country but around the world. The source of the info is at the bottom of each slide. This is a totalitarian process – means we are now in a police state.” Binney, a 32-year veteran of the agency, was instrumental in the creation of the NSA’s surveillance program for digital information. He also served as the NSA’s senior technical director. As a result, he’s been sought after by a multitude of media outlets, like CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, and PBS. Concerning the collection of data by federal agencies mentioned by Binney, Washington’s Blog added that: “By way of background, the government is spying on virtually everything we do.” “All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: fascism; fusioncenters; nsa; obama; obamanation; policestate; surveillance; tyranny
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1 posted on 01/17/2014 2:35:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Prisoner” TV series was based on the Panopticon State.


2 posted on 01/17/2014 2:36:48 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

you’re either with them or against them.


3 posted on 01/17/2014 2:40:43 PM PST by RC one
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The NSA are a bunch of juvenile wankers who live in their mothers’ basement and are de-selected Beta “males.”


4 posted on 01/17/2014 2:41:12 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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5 posted on 01/17/2014 2:41:50 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I hope a lawyer reads this.

Any case that involved information gained via phone records or Email should be challenged. If the evidence came from NSA data then the case should be thrown out. In fact after the NSA has said this then it would appear to me that a LEO must prove that that the data did NOT come an NSA source.

Abolish this agency. Burn the records


6 posted on 01/17/2014 2:41:58 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama say “FORWARD !”

People say “Seig Heil !”


7 posted on 01/17/2014 2:44:04 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state

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Not to mention tyranny.


8 posted on 01/17/2014 2:45:22 PM PST by Starboard
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Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state.

Police state? Yeh, I was thinking about that while I went through the security checkpoint on my way to the state re-education center to turn in my unapproved propaganda. Got a tinfoil hat on you? Mine's blown off somewhere.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 2:46:30 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: kabar

Ping...


10 posted on 01/17/2014 2:47:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: P.O.E.

‘planned programed perjury policy’

isnt THAT special!!


11 posted on 01/17/2014 2:48:34 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve long suspected that many amazingly lucky traffic stop drug busts weren’t lucky at all.


12 posted on 01/17/2014 2:49:01 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ping for later


13 posted on 01/17/2014 2:52:10 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: arderkrag
I notice my tag line is becoming more and more appropriate.

In the current system, the government has the means to gather all the info it needs, to railroad anybody who displeases the powers that be. The Obama administration has also repeatedly demonstrated the willingness to use power to punish political opponents.

14 posted on 01/17/2014 2:52:56 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Wouldn’t be hard for them to find something, pretend they never saw it, then go back and subpoena for it, and then present it in court, or if you’re prominent enough, just leak it to the usual suspects.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 2:54:38 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've always thought that they collect all information and when they want to destroy someone's business, or political ambitions, they just have all this stuff at their command..

what I wonder about is do republicans have access or is it it strictly for democrats to use....or is it to the highest bidder....

I think Snowden is a hero.....imo....

16 posted on 01/17/2014 2:55:24 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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“All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.”

Thought experiment: suppose police broke into your home without a warrant, while you were away, and saw things that make them decide they want to prosecute you. Would it now be legitimate for them to search for a pretext to get a warrant (eg, claim an informant said you have X, Y, Z in the house), kick in your door, and seize the items they illegally perused before?

17 posted on 01/17/2014 2:56:28 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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NSA should profile Muslims.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 2:57:52 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mia San Mia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, it's pretty that the "Public Servants" are NOT.

Tax Slaves, we've become.

19 posted on 01/17/2014 2:58:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: PapaBear3625

I won’t consider it a police state until I actually have to get security clearance to leave the county, show papers at the state border, and turn in ALL of my firearms and unapproved books.


20 posted on 01/17/2014 2:58:35 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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