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Plane crashes, woman dies, survivor films and takes selfie
CNET ^ | 10 January 2014 | Chris Matyszczyk

Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty

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To: Fred Nerks; FR_addict; justiceseeker93
Have another pic before the splash.


181 posted on 01/11/2014 12:50:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: freepersup
It's starting to look like the Reverend was on the island, not on the aircraft, and what you have is two unnamed passengers, one of the them the woman seen holding onto the wing, not wearing a lifevest, which the man sitting on the wing appears to be blowing up for her.
It's a wonder there weren't any drownings, one passenger evidently did leave the aircraft without a vest, and the polynesian woman, although she's wearing hers, hasn't inflated her vest yet... The water looks almost calm...nice day for a swim.
182 posted on 01/11/2014 12:55:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
You say that Fuddy is “on the left by the door.” Looking at your last image of the two persons by the door, she would have to be the one on the right, IF she is either of the two, because of the blurry image of what might be her outer clothing possibly matching the sweater or light jacket she was wearing in the photo on the Island and we know she also wore aboard the plane. But your last image, unfortunately, lacks the resolution to be definitive about that. Also the hair color of the person on the right side of the door in your last image does not definitely match the auburn hair Fuddy was shown to have in the pre-takeoff photo.

Barring more definitive evidence, I'd lean more toward Fuddy being the third person from the right in the foreground in your second image, the one of the passengers floating in the water after the crash as posted by matt1234 at # 45, and I'm even more convinced that the man next to her there, the second person from the right, is Keith Yamamoto.

183 posted on 01/11/2014 1:13:37 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Red Steel; FR_addict; Fred Nerks; LucyT; hoosiermama; matt1234; All
Yes, as I said, there is little doubt that Fuddy was seated in the second row, left side, and was likely wearing the exact same outfit on board the plane as she was wearing when she posed for the pre-takeoff photo.

The problem is to definitively identify her in the image taken of the plane passengers in the water after the crash.

184 posted on 01/11/2014 1:20:49 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

imo that's NOT Fuddy. And at second look, that woman could be wearing a lifevest, it's hard to tell if that's her arm or a vest.

I'll let you compare...


185 posted on 01/11/2014 1:28:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

It looks to me like it could be the same woman. The hair’s about right, and the other facial features do look a bit similar.


186 posted on 01/11/2014 1:35:02 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle; justiceseeker93; maggief; LucyT; butterdezillion

Without seeing pictures of the other passengers its difficult to tell

The big mystery to me is who are the other two passengers and why did they take off and /or refuse treatment ? Are they hiding? Why? Did anyone interview them or even get their names?


187 posted on 01/11/2014 1:42:58 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Cementjungle

So who is holding whose hand in the image of the two people by the door of the aircraft before it sank?


188 posted on 01/11/2014 1:44:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: hoosiermama

Seeing that we are mostly guessing here, I might suggest that there were two people who went along for the ride and didn’t pay...?
Might have been the son of the pilot as someone suggested, and perhaps Fuddy invited her sister?

Something so simple...and on a bad day, better to keep quiet about it. The investigators would certainly know.


189 posted on 01/11/2014 1:49:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Which photo are you referring to?


190 posted on 01/11/2014 1:49:25 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3110483/posts?page=179#179

The third one on tbis comment, I cropped and enlarged. I’ve posted it three times now...


191 posted on 01/11/2014 1:52:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Cementjungle

You should be able to clearly see the person on the right is holding the arm or the hand of the woman on the left.


192 posted on 01/11/2014 1:54:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
That's too fuzzy for me to determine much of anything at all really.

But... this is interesting:

"When Hollstein saw that everyone was out of the plane, bobbing in the water and seemingly without any major injuries, he swam for shore, guessing it took 90 minutes. He said he was surprised to hear that Fuddy had died. "She was doing fine out of the airplane," Hollstein said. "Her assistant was really watching her. He was taking care of her."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/13/hawaii-plane-survivor/4017865/

193 posted on 01/11/2014 1:58:34 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Fred Nerks

Maybe that was the person Holstein was referring to... her assistant.


194 posted on 01/11/2014 1:59:53 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: WildHighlander57

Someone’s red flag has gone up in the office of the investigator. They’re keeping mum to see what shakes out of the coconut tree after repeated interviews. Who changes story? Which story doesn’t fit? Why?
They no doubt know cause of death. But let’s say it was drowning. It would not be unusual in this circumstance. BUT there may be a mark on her body that makes them ask: “Was it assisted by someone, and who was involved?”
So investigation continues before its ruled “accidental”!

The thud that caused the plane to go down has not been explained yet either


195 posted on 01/11/2014 2:04:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.slackdavis.com/cessna-caravan-crash-molokai-hawaii/

compressor turbine blades -?


196 posted on 01/11/2014 2:06:09 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: hoosiermama
Why does it matter who the other two are? I do not believe anyone would crash a plane, to provide opportunity to kill someone.

If Fuddy was murdered, it was before she walked on that plane, and the crash was intended to provide cover of that fact.
197 posted on 01/11/2014 2:06:21 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

My thought also. It matters because they may have heard or seen something boarding or in the brief flight that is relevant to the actions you just described Was she coherent getting on or during the flight?


198 posted on 01/11/2014 2:13:03 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: justiceseeker93; butterdezillion

I’m beginning to think that anyone who wants to hear that she was ‘put down’ will see the woman holding the wing as being Fuddy, and anyone else, like myself, who thinks she had a stroke or a coronary occlusion, will see her being held by the arm or the hand, at the door of the aircraft.

This identification discussion could go on forever. The question isn’t really which one she is in the water, the question is, why did the aircraft lose power? Because if it was sabotage on the island, they were ALL meant to be victims.

That’s a bit far fetched when you look at the video I posted of the twin-engined Cessna going down in much rougher water - and the pilot getting out to walk on the wing. An aircraft can be sabotaged in a number of ways, but no one can guarantee the passengers won’t get out and do what this group did. Float and get rescued.

Unless it’s a b.o.m.b. of course...and this wasn’t.

And the one who died was an overweight sedentary woman aged 65, whose physical condition or health record no one here knows.

Most of the questions raised during this event and its aftermath are due to sloppy reporting imo, and the fact that the airline operator had the gall to go down there and retrieve the engine and leave the aircraft in the water, where it (perhaps) sustained more damage. His insurers are bound to be asking why he did that, not to mention the concern of the engine manufacturers.

The large government subsidies that airline received just might have clouded his judgement...and like some wag said way back, no one is really certain that the salvage boat brought the right plane back to shore. Luckily, the helicopter pilot says he noted the number on the tail.


199 posted on 01/11/2014 2:17:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: rolling_stone

Likely but not confirmed yet.


200 posted on 01/11/2014 2:18:23 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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