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Hey Randians, There’s More To Life Than Economics: Mike Lee is right, life is not an Ayn Rand novel
The Federalist ^ | December 12, 2013 | Nicholas Rizzuto

Posted on 12/25/2013 10:01:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In an address to the Heritage Foundation entitled “What’s Next for Conservatives”, Senator Mike Lee said, “The conservative vision for America is not an Ayn Rand novel. It’s a Norman Rockwell painting, or a Frank Capra movie: a nation ‘of plain, ordinary kindness, and a little looking out for the other fellow, too.’” The comment, which received little attention when it was made back in October, harkens back to a traditional conservatism that stressed the importance of local institutions and relationships as a source of strength. As innocuous as that might seem to most conservatives, the mildly unfavorable comparison of Ayn Rand to anyone seems to be enough to send some of her devotees into a tizzy.

Enter Yaron Brook and Steve Simpson of the Ayn Rand Institute.

Taking to the pages of The Daily Caller to defend Rand from the Utah Senator’s statement, the two conclude that Mike Lee’s vision of America is no different than Barack Obama’s. As evidence, they point to a speech Lee gave in November at a Heritage Foundation anti-poverty forum. The Senator said:

"First, let’s be clear about one thing. The United States did not formally launch our War on Poverty in 1964, but in 1776: when we declared our independence, and the self-evident and equal rights of all men to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Brook and Simpson responded to Lee’s assertion by sarcastically asking, “American colonists fought the most powerful nation on earth as a precursor to a mid-20th century welfare program?”

It would be obvious to all but the most obtuse readers that it was not Lee’s intention to compare the American Revolution to LBJ’s War on Poverty. To anyone who cared to read beyond the cherry picked excerpt Brook and Simpson provided, Lee explicitly says what he means a few sentences later:

"From our very Founding, we not only fought a war on poverty – we were winning. The tools Americans relied on to overcome poverty were what became the twin pillars of American exceptionalism: our free enterprise economy and voluntary civil society."

Are the luminaries at the Ayn Rand Institute denying that free enterprise and voluntary association have been the most effective tools in reducing poverty? I suppose that makes them no better than Obama.

It’s sad to see such knee jerk hostility to the idea that communal ties, beyond those that are the result of cold economic calculation, played an integral part of the success America enjoys. It’s also not very conservative.

While the Randians rightfully hold individual achievement as the primary building block of prosperity, they seem to think that it occurs in a vacuum defined by the size and scope of government. They’d have you believe that all the remarkable individuals of the world need in order to reach their potential is the absence of government.

But the truth is more complex than they’d lead you to believe. There are more conditions that contribute to the level of individual achievement in America than we can even begin to catalogue here. The social stability that provides the safe space in which the individual flourishes is not the result of abstract principles divined from a Rand novel. It is the result of millions of relationships, shared beliefs, and communal bonds or, as Edmund Burke famously put it, being “attached to the subdivision, to love the little platoon we belong to in society”.

Norman Rockwell’s ability to capture the spirit of Burke’s little platoons is what makes his work a more appropriate metaphor for what makes America great than anything Rand wrote. The idealized image of a family sitting around a Thanksgiving table says more about America in one image than Atlas Shrugged was able to say in 1,168 pages of dense text.

Yaron Brook and Steve Simpson would have you believe that attributing America’s success to strong communal bonds is a deviation from conservatism or the vision of the founders. To the contrary, denying them is the true deviation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aynrand; economy; lping; mikelee; obama
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To: muir_redwoods
One of the greatest weapons of 'progressives' is this idea that the 'progression' they advocate (because there are other kinds) is somehow natural and inevitable. Kind of like the marxists claiming history was on their side and that capitalism would collapse under its own contradictions. Some of them were still spouting this the day before the Berlin wall collapsed. Anyway, the point is that this enables them to assert that your opposition to affirmative action, or gay 'marriage' sounds exactly the same as the opposition to slavery, or mixed race marriage, in years gone by. You are a dinosaur, who will be judged by the future as a bigot and a racist. Get on the right side of history man!

Of course it's all twaddle, designed to win arguments by sheer bluff rather than have to go through all that logic and hard debate work. There is no reason why current social trends in drug use, abortion, or sexual activity cannot be reversed, or even sheer off in some other direction. Sexual and social mores have oscillated from one extreme to another for centuries, as even a cursory examination of history will illustrate. All it requires is for people to think differently on these matters, and that is what we are in politics for. Just because the other side claims that they will prevail doesnt mean that they will, unless of course by shouting that so loud they shut us up.

In other words, FRiend...do not despair! The world may not bend to your wishes often, but it doesn't bend to theirs either.

21 posted on 12/26/2013 2:38:25 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
Her philosophy isn't anti-charity, and she make a point to note that.

She was against the view that held that those in need had a right (welfare system) to your life and goods.

Sadly, many so-called 'Conservatives' think that the welfare state is just fine even though it is based on implicit force.

It is immoral.

22 posted on 12/26/2013 2:45:48 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The idealized image of a family sitting around a Thanksgiving table says more about America in one image than Atlas Shrugged was able to say in 1,168 pages of dense text.

The abundance pictured in that picture came from the Capitalist system, which allows freedom of association and private property.

The Puritans almost starved to death because they tried socialism before they tried private property rights.

Take away capitalism and you have each man fighting for the scraps that the Government throws our way.

Those in government today who call themselves conservatives seem very unconcerned with defending private property, but are more concerned with making the welfare state work more efficiently.

23 posted on 12/26/2013 2:52:42 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: montanajoe
"Libertarians are Liberals at heart..."

Their only saving grace is that they don't want to other peoples money.
24 posted on 12/26/2013 3:32:00 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: FredZarguna

Lee’s initial remarks are easily misinterpretable by honest people. All that was needed was the clarification given. The rest is picking a fight with people that we don’t need to have.
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Well said. That was exactly my immediate reaction when reading the article.

A fight we don’t need.

Mike Lee is a good guy. A good Senator. We need more like him.


25 posted on 12/26/2013 4:10:35 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: montanajoe

Montanajoe:

Although we are free men and surely able to pick the company that we keep, I think that there are many issues where Conservatism and Libertarians agree.

Both want smaller government.

Both believe in the Constitution.

Liberals hate both groups.

Sometimes when you are in a foxhole, it’s better to have someone on your side who disagrees with you on minor issues but agrees that you have a right to your opinion.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 5:46:25 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Ueriah
issues where Conservatism and Libertarians agree.

How different things would be if the two parties in Congress were the Libertarians and the Teaparty.

27 posted on 12/26/2013 5:57:12 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Vanders9
"For sure Rand was against ‘looking out for the other fellow’ being forced on everyone’, but really she didnt have much time for voluntary charity either. She might have thought it should be allowed, but she quite clearly also thought it an utterly stupid thing to do. "

Yep. "Now that I've got mine screw you."

28 posted on 12/26/2013 6:22:55 AM PST by OKSooner ("Like, cosmic, man.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Russell Kirk dismissed libertarians as “chirping sectaries” adding that they and conservatives have nothing in common...


29 posted on 12/26/2013 6:40:38 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While the Randians rightfully hold individual achievement as the primary building block of prosperity, they seem to think that it occurs in a vacuum defined by the size and scope of government. They’d have you believe that all the remarkable individuals of the world need in order to reach their potential is the absence of government.

What tripe. "Randians" only "seem" to think that to this writer. It is either intentional misinterpretation or outright ignorance of Rand's philosophy. Probably the latter.

30 posted on 12/26/2013 8:46:39 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Vanders9

Believe as you like but your hopes are a totally lost cause in this culture. Nothing short of a complete collapse will turn the page back. The ‘50’s are not coming back.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 10:35:43 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: muir_redwoods

I dont want the 50’s to come back. I want my culture to be alive, vibrant and prosperous in the 2020’s. Do you not think the future is worth fighting for?


32 posted on 12/27/2013 2:28:48 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Yes I do but wholesale change will take massive death. The people who have poisoned our culture are not open to persuasion; They already know they are indisputably right. They have to die out and, via their beloved abortion rights, leave no progeny similarly poisoned by their ideas.

I don’t see it happening soon or completely.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 10:56:09 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: fortheDeclaration

This is why families are so important. They are the ones who need to look out for each other, and not be reliant on those outside of the extended family.

But the traditional family structure has been destroyed, through disastrous government policy, and liberal propaganda. I believe this was done intentionally, so as to further increase the power of the government.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 11:01:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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