Posted on 12/12/2013 5:01:30 AM PST by Kaslin
How sorrowful, but true!
Was the Pope talking about capitalism or materialism? Jesus said it was easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, also that where your treasure is there your heart will be. To accuse the Pope of being somewhat of a Marxist is like saying Jesus was just a community organizer.
Leftists Try to Paint Pope As a Marxist: What the Pope Really Said: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/what_the_pope_really_said.html …
The media heard what they wanted to hear in Pope Francis’ words. Despite what you hear, he’s no Marxist:
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/12/02/pope-francis-and-the-media-missing-the-forest-for-a-couple-of-trees/ … …
We can’t have a pushback against the international Left until we have the right wing movement in order, and with shallow globalist ideologues like Limbaugh it might take a while.
Capitalism is simply economic freedom for individuals to wield. When people choose to put their “betters” in charge of their economic choices you end up with an enslaved, dependent and poor society.
That is one definition of it. We could also speak of Real Capitalism, — just like we can speak of Communism envisaged by Karl Marx and Real Communism implemented in the Soviet Union. Real Capitalism today is very far from that ideal you describe: it has governments, some of them patently oppressive, involved; it has fragmented by nations global market where governments shield and channel individual acts of exchange through tariffs, industrial policies and currency manipulations; we have vise regimes so that goods move but labor doesn’t. We further have the ideology of moral permissiveness and unfettered consumerism coming from the West, the ideology that is promoted aggressively leading to moral ruin. That is what we have practically speaking; this is a vastly suboptimal system that leaves “pockets of exclusion” all over the world and moral decay accompanying prosperity where there is some prosperity. The Pope, unlike Rush Limbaugh, is a global leader with responsibilities for a billion of faithful and indirectly for the entire human race, and he rightly speaks of the defects of Real Capitalism.
Freedom isn’t a defect. It does have consequences. I’ll take the consequences instead of slavery to the state.
The freedom you speak of in not real and the Pope is speaking of practicalities, not theories. For example, a Chinese worker cannot come to the US and get a job here: various visa laws will prevent him. So his low wage is an artefact of unfreedom.
I understand and share your sentiment, but we don’t live in the world of ideal capitalism.
Wait until all the Catholic capitalists stop contributing to the Peter’s Pants collection.
Frankie might change his tune.
**I’m offended by the inclusion of the words “trickle down theories” as it relates to free markets. It seems deliberately provocative.**
This was the line that was mistranslated by Vatican staff.
You are very perceptive.
Nearly every Chancery in the country has a very expensive steak house right down the street, where “the guys” hang out putting drinks and prime ribs on our tab.
And leaving their phone numbers on little cocktail napkins for the goodlooking waiters and bartenders (male).
I’ve seen it in practice.
Pope Frankie should clean up his own house first before telling us how to clean up ours.
They are all politicians now.
Wondering if Mr. Ransom read the exhortation.
I believe that’s Peter’s Pence.
I was being snarky.
(The Pence has become billions.)
probably not
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