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Parents and Teachers Object to Common Core
Townhall.com ^ | December 13, 2013 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/10/2013 10:57:14 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Black Agnes

It would be far classier of you to say you hope there is not an issue here, but you would like to look into it to be sure that is the case.

Instead it’s like you WANT it to be an issue... so you can feel good about criticizing.

That is going to blow back spiritually at you... just like it did here. All it needs is a person of integrity to answer you.


21 posted on 12/10/2013 1:12:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I stated that the whole establishment is in the game to enrich their bank accounts.

You accused me of having a liberal outlook and being skin deep.

I gave you a specific example.

You babbled something about something and accused me of being shallow.

Clearly you aren’t participating in the discussion. I lived with a lot of potheads in the dorm in college like that.

BTW, you are aware that Jeb Bush is a BIG supporter of Commie Core. Right?

I’m sure he’s only thinking of our best interests. Well, and his bank account too.


22 posted on 12/10/2013 1:12:12 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

You have not traced any proof that this is bad.

God himself promises that doing good will be rewarded. You have not ruled out that avenue at all.


23 posted on 12/10/2013 1:13:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“You have not traced any proof that this is bad.”

Proof that corruption is bad? Proof that passing legislation designed to enrich your own family at the expense of the taxpayers is bad?

Really?

Moneychangers. All.


24 posted on 12/10/2013 1:14:34 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

You are energetically committing the fallacy of petitio principii. (Latin for “assuming the initial point.”)

Because you say it is corrupt, it must be so.

Color me unconvinced, and you sound like you are just flattering yourself with your supposed superiority.


25 posted on 12/10/2013 1:17:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Black Agnes
Clearly you aren’t participating in the discussion.

Why yes I was... I spoke to one example of a problem. It could be a matter of the teachers assuming they can wing it and not actually giving serious attention to the pedagogy model.

The better approach would be to simply get Federal funding out of the picture. It does not need to be there. It is a false economy. Let private charity help suffering school systems if they need help.

Now see, I said something constructive. All you wanted to do was to tear down.

26 posted on 12/10/2013 1:21:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: MacMattico

It’s a new pedagogy model.

Other than hideous, value-free exercises, which are already a problem and might just be getting pulled into this new paradigm, maybe there’s nothing inherently unintelligent about it. It might in fact be smarter than most teachers and parents are able to keep up with. And that could be a handicap because after all, we don’t want schoolwork that needs a specially tutored elite to teach it. That would divide parents from kids. Maybe the current “Common Core” is too clever by half.

Forget red herrings. Is it wise? It will not be, if parents will have trouble tutoring their progeny along with it. If good models are needed, what is working now in homeschooling might be those models.


27 posted on 12/10/2013 1:33:13 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Swede Girl

Common Core, as a real group, starts out in 2007 as a 501-type organization. Prior to that? It’s a shadow group of sorts who held some meeting a couple of times a year. The group tends to lead back to Chicago in the late 1990s. Several of the bigger players of the group, were working for non-profits or foundations in the late 90’s.

It would appear, that they saw the window of opportunity opening under the Bush era, and took advantage of a “core issue” under the Bush administration. Everybody from conservative blocks...were complaining over poor education...so this group emerges with a mythical method of fixing it.

The solution? A script. Someone writes a script and a teacher repeats the scripted words, period. If you can’t read the script or are too dynamic in your style....you’d best find an exit and leave.

If you notice....the one math expert on their committee of the Common Core leadership....never signed off on the issued product. You can’t find any math experts who proudly say it’s a big step in the right direction. Most math experts are negative and don’t support the agenda.

My humble guess is that we will use this for a decade, and come to realize that any idiot can recite the script...and we’ve hired up fifty thousand dimwits with useless degrees who are now teaching across America. Based on the theme, I would imagine that we could hire Peruvian university graduates with degrees in goat-ology to teach American kids English and French literature....all by script.


28 posted on 12/11/2013 12:39:36 AM PST by pepsionice
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