“Mandela could have been gracious and turned the glory to God... which would have been a segue to racial harmony... “
Nonsense. After all those years in prison, he chose to have De Clerk as a deputy in his administration. They managed to maintain a market economy despite the fact that three hard left wing organizations make up the core of the ANC. They’re the only decent economy in subsaharan africa. They didn’t drive the whites farmers out or confiscate all of their lands, they let them stick around and simply levied taxes on them. Any fair comparison between SA and Zimbabwe shows people what could have been. If he’d come out of prison mean and vindictive(as he arguably had every right to be) he could have rounded up and slaughtered a bunch of people and destroyed their economy at the same time.
The Mandela situation is a lot like the MLK Jr. situation. People want to focus on their ideology rather than the pragmatism of their decisionmaking and their ability to navigate through without provoking wide spread physical conflict. It would have been so easy for either the US or the SA situations in the sixties to have devolved into bitter long term partisan violence.
I don’t see why it’s so hard for people to just tip their hat and move on. People can call him a terrorist, but I doubt there are more than a handful of freepers that wouldn’t have their guns at the ready if our government tried to treat us that way. He’s a man with flaws who handled things pretty well, all things considered. I think people don’t realize how bad things in SA could get if the racist populist types like his ex wife or Julius Malema ever truly gain control in the country. The same types of political idiots who’ve run Zimbabwe into the ground make up a sizeable chunk of the ANC. The fact that SA has maintained a favorable business climate over the last few decades is remarkable, all things considered, and it’s mostly stems from his decision to set a more moderate tone despite the fact that ANC had the power to do anything they liked.
Good point. White rule and apartheid South Africa weren't going to last forever. Their end could have been a lot more violent and destructive without Mandela and de Klerk.
They still need to answer for the Vuvuzela.
God is not nonsense, and to flout God is nonsense and foolish. We of course should be glad that God did not let the situation fail as bad as Zimbabwe had. Nonetheless to deify Mandela is wrong too. That kind of allegiance only belongs to God. With Mandela’s being gone, comes the acid test of his legacy. If it fails, it’s at least in part because he did not emphasize God enough.
Best post I’ve seen in quite some time. Spot on!
He almost singlehandedly destroyed a prosperous nation and early went to prison for using terrorism to overthrow an elected government.
In America, we do not condone the actions of commie terrorists.
You do realize that whites are being raped and murdered at very high levels in SA?
Congrats, idiotic post of the day!!
So what exactly is the cutoff for “things getting bad”? How many people dead constitutes “bad” in your book?
He was a stinking terrorist, jailed for possession of a huge stack of weapons and explosives, and 193 acts of terrorism. He was invited to negotiate numerous times, with only one condition, that he swears off violence, and he steadfastly refused.
Apartheid ended not because of him or the ANC, but despite them. They just happened to intimidate their way into power afterwards.
I for one am glad your commie hero is rotting in hell as of today.
I do not condone his early years, but I understand his circumstances were beyond my comprehension. Anger was a logical emotion, but he rose above it even if he embraced the wrong form of government. Like much of Africa, it will take generations to change if the stars align because tribalism is difficult to overcome. America was a unique experiment in freedom and unity of purpose and our template does not fit elsewhere for many reasons.
Speak your mind FRiend. The world is often many shades of grey even when we seek to view it in black and white. No place was more grey than South Africa and Mandela reflected that, but I applaud how he finished his life despite my disagreements. He was a very notable figure that will forever be celebrated and demonized. There were atrocities committed by both sides, but I won’t argue with any man who seeks freedom. Perhaps the truth lies in there somewhere, only God knows.
Good grief. Please look up “necklacing” and see if you still want to defend this vile, sadistic murderous piece of murderous.
Hank