Posted on 12/01/2013 2:11:47 PM PST by Texas Fossil
The first edition of the King James Bible included these books, although not as canonical, because they were not written in Hebrew.
Thanks for that information.
The beauty of this day and technology is that we can have almost any version in electronic format.
I normally only use the KJV. It is what I grew up with. That is what is beside my bed and what I carry to church.
Thank you for doing so. I hate watching Jews desecrate the holiday by eating fried food, and playing, when they should be reading the 4 books of the Maccabees.
I believe Lightman is Lutheran. he’s also correct that most people who label themselves “protestants” do not read the books of the Maccabees.
I did not “label myself” Protestant. That label was applied by one of yours.
I have discussed the meaning of that label with Catholic friend before. I do not protest anything.
You are responsible for your actions & choices, so am I.
What has been, that will be; what has been done, that will be done. Nothing is new under the sun.Even the thing of which we say, "See, this is new!" has already existed in the ages that preceded us.
There is no remembrance of the men of old; nor of those to come will there be any remembrance among those who come after them.
Ecc 1:9-11
Unfortunately, humans continue to live in the moment and neglect to apply lessons from the past. As we age, we can see this pattern repeated in our own lives. Philosopher George Santayana is attributed with this admonition: "Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It."
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Maccabees are historical books.
The stories on which I commented are from the Midrash and Judith, not Maccabees.
My comment with regard to Judith was that the author of this piece misplaced it in time by almost 500 years.
I am Christian and I love reading Old Testament Apocrypha, as they are important history. The Book of Enoch is an excellent read. Just excellent.
Yes, I have often thought that the “Good Shepherd discourse” in John 10 makes little sense (”It was the Feast of the Dedication....”) without Maccabees to explain just what the Feast of the Dedication is all about.
What a contrast between Judas “the Hammer” and his armed revolt and the Good Shepherd whose tactic is to lay down His life for the sheep!
And outside of religious scholars and Ethiopians Jews, I doubt more than a handful of Jews have heard of the Book of Enoch.
Secondly, lightman is a Lutheran, I believe, not Catholic. I am pleased to have him as "one of mine" :)
thirdly, let me rephrase my statement -- most people outside orthodoxy do not read Maccabees. You are exceptional.
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