[sport]

I think it was Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson. It was a long time ago. It was in American History book, I think the lesson was about the importance of an independently informed citizenry.

And as far as I know, the complete verbiage was: In a Democracy, the people do not always get the Government they want, but they always get the Government they deserve.

Your argument is with them.

[yldstrk]

my argument today is with whoever repeats that garbage

[Theodore R.]

independently informed citizenry

No such creature. That's why I'd have to have my fate decided by an American jury; Zimmermann came out unexpectedly ahead, but the jurors had second thoughts, and Zimmermann now seems self-destructive.