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Republicans Back Down, Ending Crisis Over Shutdown and Debt Limit
NYT ^ | Oct. 16, 2013 | By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER

Posted on 10/16/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by lonestar67

Edited on 10/17/2013 6:40:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON — Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law as the House and Senate approved last-minute legislation ending a disruptive 16-day government shutdown and extending federal borrowing power to avert a financial default with potentially worldwide economic repercussions.

With the Treasury Department warning that it could run out of money to pay national obligations within a day, the Senate voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday evening, 81 to 18, to approve a proposal hammered out by the chamber’s Republican and Democratic leaders after the House on Tuesday was unable to move forward with any resolution. The House followed suit a few hours later, voting 285 to 144 to approve the Senate plan, which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.

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To: Girlene; central_va; GilesB; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; LTC.Ret
What's wrong Wrong WRONG..... with what I posted?

The problem cannot be solved alone with the hope of electing virtuous politicians. Bush had a Republican congress for a couple years and blew the debt sky high.

Our Framers didn't rely on the election of righteous and moral men; neither should we.

Only a return to federalism can possibly save what very little remains of republican freedom.

261 posted on 10/17/2013 5:17:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Aria
Only my love of my family stops me.

Same here. I shudder to think what it will take for me to say "eff it" and leave. Probably right after I dispatch a few hundred looters roving the countryside.

262 posted on 10/17/2013 6:06:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: HomeAtLast
Nearly everyone here voted for Romney last year. Next year, same **** different dude. Anyone who balks will be mercilessly insulted, denounced, shunned.

Yet we go on blaming the compromisers in Congress


Am I in before the “This is all your fault for not electing Mittens” posts?
263 posted on 10/17/2013 6:40:24 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Myrddin
Time to primary that asshole Mike Simpson. We have candidate to run against him already. This vote seals his fate as a RINO.


Considering the demographics of the state I think we should all call his office and ask just who in the blue blazes was he representing yesterday. It must be his wallet, or his buds on the beltway, or lobbyist. It sure isn't the people of Idaho.
264 posted on 10/17/2013 6:45:17 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

At first glance it appears that the majority of the Republican House caucus defied their leadership and voted against the sellout. One would think, therefore, that there would be a full scale revolt against the entire GOP leadership to punish them for their betrayal. But that’s not how Washington works. This was all a big charade. The House leaders figured out how many votes they needed to pass the bill and determined which members were best able to survive a “yes” vote. If they had needed another 30 sellout votes, they would have got another 30 sellout votes. A lot of those in the GOP majority were simply permitted to vote No to give them political cover for next year’s election cycle. There are probably only 50 true conservatives in the entire House and fewer than 10 in the entire Senate. The political balance situation is much worse than the average American imagines.


265 posted on 10/17/2013 7:10:34 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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266 posted on 10/17/2013 7:18:23 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: lonestar67

We must stop the IDIOCRACY!


267 posted on 10/17/2013 7:21:54 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Me too...guess I better buy a couple of pairs of new “walking shoes”!


268 posted on 10/17/2013 7:22:26 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: littleharbour

BUT, but, we need to take-back the GOP from the INSIDE.

As if, in the 40+yrs it’d take to even come close, the Republic would be worth ‘saving’

Where do I sign my name under the 2nd Declaration of Independence?


269 posted on 10/17/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: lonestar67
...which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.

Hmmm. What happens then? Deja Vu again?

270 posted on 10/17/2013 7:31:05 AM PDT by McGruff (Conservatives are sure catching a lot of flak lately. Wonder why?)
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To: littleharbour

I fear you are correct. I hope we can convince people we need the “numbers” to stop this tradition.

We will need to examine the voting records of the members who voted NO before Keeping them. I hope each district does this, wish I could be more positive.


271 posted on 10/17/2013 7:34:00 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: nutmeg
KS IS as conservative as you think but what Jenkins will tell you, "I'm voting what my constituency wanted me to do," reading "I represent liberal neighbors in Topeka" (government Capitol of KS, were it not for liberal big government in Topeka, it would revert to a simple farming community!

What Jenkins is again saying, "I'm not voting what is best for the citizens in my community but what they tell me they want and it's not about 'doing the right thing,' it's about getting reelected!"

That crap ain't gonna work any longer in Kansas.

Word to Lynn Jenkins, "Lynn, you're not in Kansas any more, so head on outta here!"

272 posted on 10/17/2013 7:42:57 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: i_robot73

It has nothing to do with labels, it has to do with electing the right individuals. Running a Tea Party candidate in a GOP primary and winning makes defeating the Democrat much easier than if you ran as a third party in a 3-way race against both of them. At least in states where there is no run-off election and the “winner” gets to win with less than 50% of the vote, as Franken did. Being obsessed with what party label someone uses is stupid. Strategizing to get the right people elected is what’s important, not their label.

If Obama had run as a third party Socialist or Green Party, he would have lost handily. That’s not the way to go.


273 posted on 10/17/2013 7:49:36 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: dfwgator

Was there any doubt the way this was gonna end?


274 posted on 10/17/2013 7:50:56 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

No doubt at all.


275 posted on 10/17/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NonValueAdded
Complete cave-in at the last chance to rein in the Socialist agenda.

Ya tell the morons both these party's are all riding in the same limo, and ya get that familier look..

277 posted on 10/17/2013 8:37:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

yep, that’s them


278 posted on 10/17/2013 8:39:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: snarkytart
Was there any doubt the way this was gonna end?

Of course not.

While some were cheering on and worshipping their latest political celebrities, some were telling them what was going to happen.

>>>They'll shove this down your throats and then legalize tens of millions of foreign illegal criminals<<<

279 posted on 10/17/2013 8:41:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: snarkytart

Not after last Saturday. The GOP got the message loud and clear. They will no longer be able to stop any of this, even if they wanted to.


280 posted on 10/17/2013 8:42:14 AM PDT by dforest
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