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Restate: Boehner to Retreat on Obamacare and Debt Ceiling
Redstate ^ | 10/10/2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 10/10/2013 6:13:33 AM PDT by Understand the stimulus

House GOP Preparing to Give Up

By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | October 10th, 2013

I’m being told by several sources that Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor are plotting to give up trying to either defund or delay Obamacare


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crybabyboehner; restate
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To: Understand the stimulus
OK look. The Tea Party wanted the fight over the Budget, not the Debt. This measure would allow the debt date to be extended, so the fight continues over the Budget.

I would hope the extension to the Debt limit have ONE RIDER that would fully fund VA and Veterans issues not covered in the last budget deal.

21 posted on 10/10/2013 6:43:46 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Funny how we always hear that the Republicans are fixing to cave, on immigration reform, on gun control, on the debt ceiling, on the shutdown, etc., etc. Yet, it never actually happens.


22 posted on 10/10/2013 6:45:59 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: ealgeone; mazda77; vette6387

Boner and Cantor, the ED poster “boys,” ya think; just plain ole gutless and impotent traitors?


23 posted on 10/10/2013 6:47:24 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: duckman
"Based on the last several days performance, it appears that Obamacare will probably collapse under it’s own failures. Don’t know if it is still wise to keep the heat on defunding or delaying. Just sayin’."

If Obama doesn't want it collapse, it won't. He will keep changing it on the fly, adding money, changing exemptions and so on. However, it will collapse at the right moment when it has sufficiently destroyed the US healthcare system in order to pave the way for single payer government health care. The only hope is to stop it now or Obama will have imposed a leftist dream on America and it will be used like the National Park Service arbitrary closures to punish America. Oppose the regime and your health care will suffer. Become enough of a pain and the system will be used to assure that you change your ways or worse.

24 posted on 10/10/2013 6:51:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Understand the stimulus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3077181/posts


25 posted on 10/10/2013 6:55:59 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Understand the stimulus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3077179/posts


26 posted on 10/10/2013 6:56:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Understand the stimulus
It looks like the support to give in is not among the rank and file Republicans but those who were bought with a price.

It all comes down to money, or who was bought with a price in what is motivating them to give in.
27 posted on 10/10/2013 6:58:18 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Judasses brought with a price.


28 posted on 10/10/2013 6:59:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: wiggen

I refuse to go along with a plan that will completely bankrupt society just in order to say “i told you so.” The time to fight is right now....not give in.


29 posted on 10/10/2013 7:01:27 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Understand the stimulus

We’re winning! Hurry up and retreat!

Only Republican strategists could come up with such a strategy.


30 posted on 10/10/2013 7:04:00 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Solson

it will collapse before the nation does.


31 posted on 10/10/2013 7:08:50 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Understand the stimulus

Redstate has been predicting a cave since before the shut-down.

Just like the Wall Street soothsayers who are perenially predicting a market crash, sooner or later they may be right.


32 posted on 10/10/2013 7:09:50 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

The stupid party remains the Stupid Party. How can any conservative ever again vote for this bunch of spineless, double-talking, self-indulgent fools.

Some of you may dispute my statement, by saying (1) the Democrats are the greater of two evils, or (2) we must remain loyal to the national republicans so we can change it from within. Lots of luck folks - your dreams, hard work, money and enthusiasm will be wasted.

Let’s face it: our country as we knew it is doomed. Better to protect your families and loved ones in any way you can. Investing in politics is no longer a viable option, at least for this conservative. God bless.


33 posted on 10/10/2013 7:13:26 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: duckman

“Don’t know if it is still wise to keep the heat on defunding”

You may be correct. Defunding Obamacare would let Obama off the hook for the mess that’s barely begun brewing. You can hear him now ... “It was going beautifully until those bad guys defunded it”.


34 posted on 10/10/2013 7:14:21 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Understand the stimulus

Is this true?


35 posted on 10/10/2013 7:17:58 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: DeaconRed

I’m not saying Tammy Faye and Cantor don’t want to cave but the conservative caucus hopefully is not going to let them.

I think they probably told Boehner to kiss his speakership goodbye if he caves.


36 posted on 10/10/2013 7:26:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Judasses brought with a price.

Not really. Judas sold out for silver which actually has had some value throughout history.

These backstabbers aren't just evil; they're stupid. They sold out for Obamabucks which are backed by air!

37 posted on 10/10/2013 7:29:11 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: wiggen

Damn straight!

You cannot fund a law that wasn’t passed.

The current Obama care was NOT passed.

The president does not have line item veto power.

Pass the law as it was written! Then let the chips fall where they may.


38 posted on 10/10/2013 7:44:20 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Understand the stimulus

At this point, any Republican leader who caves won’t just be expelled from office. They would be looking at losing their citizenship and being exiled to Zimbabwe.


39 posted on 10/10/2013 8:03:45 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: cymbeline

That’s a cute argument...but this is a systemic change. The more gets implemented, the more of the existing infrastructure is permanently destroyed. There’s no simple “undo” function to restore to what it was just last year.


40 posted on 10/10/2013 8:14:07 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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