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In public shift, Israel calls for Assad's fall
Reuters ^ | 17 Sep 13 | Dan Williams

Posted on 09/17/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

Israel wants to see Syrian President Bashar al-Assad toppled, its ambassador to the United States said on Tuesday, in a shift from its non-committal public stance on its neighbor's civil war.

Even Assad's defeat by al Qaeda-aligned rebels would be preferable to Damascus's current alliance with Israel's arch-foe Iran, Ambassador Michael Oren said in an interview with the Jerusalem Post.

His comments marked a move in Israel's public position on Syria's two-and-1/2-year-old war.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assad; bhomiddleeast; israel; syria
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To: elhombrelibre

Publicly neutral. Covertly anti-Assad, I’m sure. The devil we know is worse than any other possibility. Oh, and he’s not stable or rational, or reliable, except that he’s reliably allied with Iran and Hizbollah, is rationally working on an end game, and that will upset the stability regardless. Better to upset his end game, so long as we’ll have instability regardless. This makes perfect sense. Instability on our own terms.


41 posted on 09/17/2013 10:42:31 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Really stupid thing for Israel to wish for.


42 posted on 09/17/2013 10:45:18 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: stars & stripes forever

You have to ask? No — he does not care.


43 posted on 09/17/2013 11:02:37 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Zhang Fei

This is why the Russians are the good guys by stepping in. No one else will lift a finger to help Christians in the Middle East.


44 posted on 09/17/2013 11:04:19 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Rennes Templar
Al Qaeda or Iran. Quite a choice.

My feelings precisely.

Either the Iran/Hezbollah/Russia axis or the Christian-persecuting, sometimes cannabalistic "rebels," many of whom are aligned with al-Qaeda.

This is surely the classic devil-versis-the-witch situation...

45 posted on 09/17/2013 11:16:54 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Israel probably wants a destabilized Middle East. I do not believe they are much worried about radical islam taking root in the region, as they are well able to defend themselves (assuming the USA can’t be snookered into doing their fighting for them, as in Iraq).

As for the fate of Christians in those lands — well, tough. No, Israel will not be taking them in. Israel is a Jewish state.


46 posted on 09/17/2013 11:22:53 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: elhombrelibre; xzins

Assad has protected Christians up until this point. The rebels have shown their intent on destroying any vestige of Christianity in Syria and then they will move on to destroying all the Jews in Israel.

In this case the devil we know is clearly better than the devil we don’t.


47 posted on 09/17/2013 11:42:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Why should he? Israel rejected Christ long ago.


48 posted on 09/17/2013 11:52:33 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: stars & stripes forever

His first concern is his people, something our leader has never known.


49 posted on 09/17/2013 12:10:44 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: elhombrelibre

Agree. That or a few hundred extremists versus an organized army of 500K - 700K (depends on who you ask) of extremists with and air force and better weapons.


50 posted on 09/17/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: elhombrelibre
Instability is the bane of nation states.

Why someone would ask for even more of it in their backyard is incomprehensible to me.

51 posted on 09/17/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: sport

To cope with what, you?


52 posted on 09/17/2013 12:42:25 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Hezbollah gave him a momentary boost. It's been lost though. His army continues to fall apart and most of them would rather go home to secure their own neighborhood. I'd say more Freepers respect Assad than Syrians. He cannot even afford to buy food for his country. He's going to fall regardless of what Obama or Putin do for him.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/1889872/report-poor-harvest-sanctions-further-threaten-syria-food-supply-world-food-programme

54 posted on 09/17/2013 12:54:22 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Yehuda

Russia is trying to protect the bank loans for arms sales to Assad. They backtracked when Assad was starting to fall and they were then willing to let him go down. Then, Putin got his own ego involved and turned it into a Cold War type thing, pretending he’s the pro-Christian type. He’s as Christian as the Ayatollah.


55 posted on 09/17/2013 12:57:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: Romulus; KC_Lion

So . . . have you two co-religionists met?


56 posted on 09/17/2013 12:58:45 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zhang Fei

He never even retook the neighborhood that he gassed. He’s a failure and they’ve no real ability to resupply or to maneuver. He’s screwed. His people are dying and so is his regime. Six million have left their homes. Two million are foreign refugees.


57 posted on 09/17/2013 1:02:42 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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To: elhombrelibre
His people are dying and so is his regime. Six million have left their homes. Two million are foreign refugees.

His people are Alawites and possibly the non-Sunni Arabs in Syria. The Sunni Arabs who have massacred Alawites for 1000 years are no more his people than the Germans were David ben Gurion's people. That millions of Sunni Arabs are foreign refugees is a net benefit to him, just as the Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 provided Israel with a firm demographic basis for a majority Jewish state.

58 posted on 09/17/2013 1:30:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Yes, they're not his people. None of them are. But his fate will be either like Gaddafi's or Saddam's. And not Putin nor Obama can save him. His and his father's cruel rule has caught up with him. His propaganda may fool some, but he's hated by Alawites, Chrisitans, Sunnis, and Shia. Possibly a few Freepers see him as a swell defender of Christianity, but Syrians clearly do not.

http://www.aawsat.net/2013/08/article55315390

59 posted on 09/17/2013 1:46:51 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Liberal women now play the vagina card to win their arguments.)
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