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Companies lay off thousands, then demand immigration reform for new labor
Washington Examiner ^ | 9/11/2013 | Byron York

Posted on 09/11/2013 11:35:34 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: jeffc

I’d say at the very least, repeal the 1965 Immigration Act and the programs that it has created/enabled to exist (such as H1-b, L-1, and the like). It has only served to create an opportunity for fraud, since no amount of enforcement will be enough.


41 posted on 09/11/2013 12:55:27 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: setha

These companies want the H1B numbers DOUBLED and in addition a whole new class of visas for low-skilled workers with a massive number of recipients.


42 posted on 09/11/2013 12:59:11 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: DannyTN
The company’s goal is money as it should be.

God help us if thats so.

A company's goal should be money tempered by a self of civic responsibility. Crapping in your nest is not responsible behavior, and demanding runaway immigration for cheap labor while ignoring its societal effects among your customer base definitely fits that description.

43 posted on 09/11/2013 1:27:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

So they just want permission to make the fire worse in order to put it out? That’s about what they’re saying that they want to do.

Such a measure(increasing guest workers) doesn’t make sense when US citizens could capably perform this work - whether they are employed(wanting better work) or short/long-term unemployed.

That, and their use of “global competitiveness” doesn’t make it any more valid.


44 posted on 09/11/2013 1:32:37 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: markomalley

“Obamacare, immigration reform may make immigrants cheaper to hire than citizens”
If Congress approves a Senate bill that creates a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, those immigrants would be granted legal status as “Registered Provisional Immigrants.” They would be legal but barred from collecting health care benefits available under Obamacare. And because the Affordable Care Act also requires businesses with more than 50 employees to provide health benefits at a capped price, it could be cheaper for those companies to hire newly legalized immigrants rather than citizens who are eligible for Obamacare benefits.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-immigration-reform-may-make-immigrants-cheaper-to-hire-than-citizens/article/2534563


45 posted on 09/11/2013 1:39:50 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: markomalley

“Of course, the U.S. unemployment rate is at 7.3 percent”

Howls, Bruce. Howls of derisive laughter.

It’s been above 25% for years.


46 posted on 09/11/2013 2:23:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: markomalley

I’ve been in these corporate meetings and strategized with these folks, was one, and saw the value in what they were doing - future strength and shareholder value.

They just lost sight of the regular folk, the American. They don’t see it’s the Ford Principle in reverse and that they are cutting their country’s and their own throat. And if you said it while they are employed and still employable, they will look at you with a blank stare or as if you just boldly ‘flattulated’.

They just need to lose their jobs and be blackballed - and the compassion and understanding will flow right in - don’t give up on them!

This isn’t capitalism run amuck, it’s American Socialism growing up. Fortunately, like the Soviet Union had an arms race that brought the issues to a head, we had QE1,2,3, Obamacare and have the next 4 years.

Russia is coming back - we will....(que soundtrack and music..)like the six million dollar man..


47 posted on 09/11/2013 2:25:31 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: USMCPOP

We are a resource-poor country. Not enough cheap labor. We need people who can work, live 2-3 families in a house and drive and old car without insurance.
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That’s WALT DISNEY all over ,, they bring in interns from foreign countries and pay them minimal wages and then confiscate most of those wages to pay for the “provided” housing... plenty of profit for Disney in Obamacare and Gay weddings ... they currently have 70%+ of their full time costumed workers getting partner benefits for same sex ... if gay marriage is legal then they can cut off the partners unless they marry... they already starve their employees into submission with low wages and part time hours.


48 posted on 09/11/2013 2:42:57 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: DannyTN

Unfortunately government’s spine seems to be inextricably linked to company wallets.


49 posted on 09/11/2013 2:45:32 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: markomalley

What they don’t realize is that with “Immigration Reform”, all those now here illegally and with at least the theoretical threat of deportation will no longer fear La Migra and demand full-retail wages.

Thus leading to a demand for more low-wage illegals.


50 posted on 09/11/2013 2:50:58 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

We need a grass roots effort to identify each of the signers, find out where they live and start making their life pure hell by demonstrating outside their homes 24 hours a day for betraying American workers.
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Disney is low hanging fruit ,, they will have any protesters arrested (they own the “city” that contains all the Disney World land) but it would be effective. Time to look up REEDY CREEK laws... http://rcid.org/


51 posted on 09/11/2013 2:52:22 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I ran across a help-wanted ad a couple of years ago for what appeared to be an engineer to test the software that runs GPS receivers; not a trivial task.

The offered wage was $33 per hour.

In Los Angeles.

That’s not even “New Grad” pay; a legitimate offer for that task in that area would have been double the offered rate.

They were clearly developing documentation for a claim that it was a job that Americans just wouldn’t do, and they needed H1b visas for Ajit, Sanjay, Hitesh and Apu.

Who would all four bunk together in a studio apartment to split the rent four ways and hire an illegal Mexican housekeeper to clean and cook for them.


52 posted on 09/11/2013 3:07:08 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: markomalley
The officials cite a publication of their trade group, the HR Policy Association, which calls for immigration reform to "address the reality that there is a global war for talent." The way for the United States to win that war for talent, they say, is more immigration.

Any honest politician would have laughed in their faces...

53 posted on 09/11/2013 4:03:36 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: GraceG
Obama speaks out against “Big Business” but then again carves out exemptions for his Big Business buddies and Unions

This is true but not new. FDR did exactly this in the New Deal era. Read Amity Schlaes book The Forgotten Man. Fascinating documentation of the corruption at the core of the class warfare driving the New Deal.

54 posted on 09/11/2013 8:11:48 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: markomalley
On Tuesday, the chief human resources officers of more than 100 large corporations sent a letter to House Speaker John Boehner and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi urging quick passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

I say that these chief human resources officers should be fired, arrested for treason, and jailed!

55 posted on 09/13/2013 3:00:26 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Replacing lawful citizens with illegal peasant labor is not “free market”, it’s scummy at best and outright traitorous at worst. And sooner or later some of the citizens are going to have to resort to making illegals untenable to hire by any means necessary because it is impossible to compete lawfully.

Seriously, try to point out that such a switch will result in a company’s product quality going down the toilet and them being despised and they’ll just blankly stare at you.


56 posted on 09/19/2013 5:17:13 AM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: Resolute Conservative

the article noted talent as a requirement.

those laid off and those unemployed lack the necessary ability or initiative to staff to the levels of corporate need.

The myth of equality in a world of educated needs is fallacious.


57 posted on 09/19/2013 5:23:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Me1onCollie

It is hard to make people understand that argument when they are all addicted to their devices which are made basically with slave labor and designer rags made from cheap sweat shop labor. We basically outlawed that kind of employee treatment but since we don’t see it because it is Mexico or Indonesia it is ok. Can you imagine the screams if they had to pay off-shore and illegals the same rate they pay US citizen labor? What would be their scapegoat then?


58 posted on 09/19/2013 6:23:04 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Don’t think I’m ignorant of this. It burns my biscuits that almost all the electronic equipment I work with comes from a nation that persecutes Christians and out-Stalined Stalin within living memory.

Unfortunately, the cold fact is slave labor makes the product very cheap if the labor doesn’t revolt, and since they’re halfway around the world even if they DID revolt (they won’t) we’d only have to deal with the indirect fallout. Slave-made goods are as addictive as cocaine and every bit as destructive to society.

And you’re 100% right about “out of sight, out of mind” - also, there’s the fact that liberals do NOT really care, it’s all PR stunts.


59 posted on 09/19/2013 3:58:31 PM PDT by Me1onCollie
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