CATO Institute: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President

CATO Institute ^ | Aug 26, 2013 | By Ilya Shapiro, Senior Fellow In Constitutional Studies, Cato

[txrangerette]

But how many people of today, even Texans, and ‘specially ladies, know who Hayden Fry is??

And this is no knock against ladies, since I are one.

Hayden Fry, former long-time football coach at SMU.

AND, no, I didn’t need to look it up.

[BigGuy22]

“Should one of them ever seek the office of POTUS, that one would simply need to renounce his or her Caymanian citizenship.”
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Actually, I’m not sure that’s true. While most countries permit their citizens to renounce their citizenship (and I trust that the Caymanians do), “[s]ome countries” (at least according to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renunciation_of_citizenship) “may not allow or do not recognize renunciation of citizenship or establish administrative procedures that are essentially impossible to complete.”

Since we would not want a foreign government’s laws to have the power to block an otherwise eligible Presidential candidate, I doubt that actual renunciation of foreign citizenship is required.

[Lakeshark]

Maybe it's the same insider that said Reagan couldn't win.

if you listen to the man speak, you know that's not true. He's one of the few that can instantly make an MSM interviewer look like a fool, and would shred any demonrat in a debate.

[FreeReign]

Look at it in the inverse, what is the ^full^ citizenship status of a child born in New York City in 1776 of a father who is a US citizen and a mother who is a French colonialist from New Orleans?

NBC.

[ops33]

Both my wife and I were born in the US. Both of my children were born in Germany while I was stationed overseas. Both of my children have US State Dept birth certificates that are headed “Record of the Birth of a US Citizen born Overseas.” It is hard for me to believe that my children are not natural born citizens.

[txrangerette]

I agree with you, if someone HAD to renounce citizenship in an additional country in order to have presidential eligibility here, that would mean that country’s laws have some influence on our laws, which they do not.

Ours operate independently of others.

But though not required, the holder of dual citizenship can certainly choose to renounce the one he does not actually want.

[Lakeshark]

Thanks for the ping. Great post JR.

[txrangerette]

They are natural born citizens.

[Lakeshark]

Thanks for the heads up, good article.

[xzins]

Nonetheless, it shows that the Founders and George Washington, were perfectly comfortable with citizenship based upon one parent rather than both.

The considered that citizenship to be at birth “by right” and “by blood descent”.

[gov_bean_ counter]

I believe that to be true as well.

[gov_bean_ counter]

Mail.

[Plummz]

So, Cruz was naturalized?

By naturalization law in 8 USC § 1401

[rockrr]

Personally, Øbongo and the dhimmis set the bar (about ten feet underground) and we would be cheating ourselves not to exploit that to elect a true conservative.

I don’t care if he’s from Mars - if he runs I’m supporting him!

[BigGuy22]

“the holder of dual citizenship can certainly choose to renounce the one he does not actually want.”
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Certainly. My point, though, was that choosing to renounce one’s (foreign) citizenship may not result in an actual renunciation if the other country doesn’t permit it.

That leads to the odd but valid conclusion that any country can declare anyone in the world to be their citizen at any time, and there may be nothing the person can do about it.

Of course, if they ever try to exercise jurisdiction over that person against his or her will, they can expect to find themselves facing a very formidable enemy.

But every country is the ultimate decision maker on the question of who its citizens are.

[TauntedTiger]

What did CATO Institute say about Obama’s POTUS eligibility?

I follow CATO on Twitter and have never seen them analyze Obama’s birth narrative. Did I miss it?

[CodeToad]

Sorry, but he was never naturalized. Especially not under 1401.

What people are stupidly arguing is that “natural born citizen” should have been stated as “citizen at birth” when the two under English mean the same thing.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

Ronald Reagan

Thank you, RR, and sad to say, we are on the verge of losing it all! I have looked at all the possible candidates, and Cruz is WAY ahead of anyone else, regarding
CREDIBILITY,GUTS,ORATORICAL ABILITY; ETHICS, and obvious LOVE for America. Cruz can potentially be the Ronald Reagan of our time.

[EternalVigilance]

Whether you’re right or wrong about his eligibility - and I’m sure that will continue to be hotly debated in many quarters - personally I still can’t support him because of his support for immoral, unconstitutional “and then you can kill the baby” “fetal pain” legislation.

If he really does run, because of where I live, I will no doubt have multiple in-person, eyeball-to-eyeball opportunities to attempt to dissuade Senator Cruz from this compromised position. Which I will take advantage of.

There’s a lot to like about the man, no doubt about it. I think he’s a decent, sincere person. But this matter is so fundamentally crucial as to be non-negotiable for me.

I’d also love to talk him out of his support for E-Verify. IMO, the last thing we need is another federal database, and a bureaucracy from which American citizens have to get permission to work and earn their daily bread.

[BfloGuy]

Thanks for that. Too many people trying to claim that your family had to have come over on the Mayflower to qualify.