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Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria [The Clown & Cameron Pretend to be Tough]
UK Telegraph ^ | 8/25/13 | Tim Ross and Ben Farmer

Posted on 08/25/2013 3:46:24 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Britain is planning to join forces with America and launch military action against Syria within days in response to the gas attack believed to have been carried out by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces against his own people.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: Darksheare
That head-exploding terrorist was a master bomb maker named Eichi A’yaash (from HAMAS I think) and that was early on in the Intifada II, (2000-2002).
So Putin would make Obambi look even more like an amateur by “degrading” US forces? Isn't that WWIII? Russia/Syria/Iran are capable of a seashore launched missile like the Silkworm on a US frigate and then what would the Salamander & Chef do then?
161 posted on 08/26/2013 1:29:34 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Paul R.; Netz

Looking at Egypt and Benghazi, I’d say the latter seems more likely.


162 posted on 08/26/2013 1:33:08 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Netz

Not certain.
But our forces over there are ships.
Doesn’t take much to bottle up a fleet out that way.
And denying airspace is really easy if done right.
Thus, forces degraded and ineffective.

Heading home, will be on the road for a bit...


163 posted on 08/26/2013 1:35:41 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

...safe journey.

I do not see Putin doing anything overt, he’s too crafty for that. I do see him letting Obambi get confused and make one or more mistakes that will humiliate him and the USA though.


164 posted on 08/26/2013 1:40:11 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz
I see your point. So you’re saying it’s not in Putin’s (and therefore not in Syrian or Hizbollah’s) interest to involve Israel at this point?

Exactly, at least regarding Russia, Syria and Iran.

Syria, Hizbollah, Iran, HAMAS do nothing is response?

I'm not saying that at all. There are plenty of options, especially for Syria and Iran, that do not involve Israel. HAMAS or Hezbollah might hit Israel, but I suspect Hezbollah is pretty well tied up assisting Assad presently anyway.

There's no need to exclude Russia, though. If we hit Assad hard enough, Putin could, as others have suggested, respond by sinking a British ship in the area. THEN what do we do?

165 posted on 08/26/2013 1:49:35 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Netz

You mean normal Obama behavior, eh?

I still think Putin might strongly warn the U.S. against any action not approved by the U.N. Security Council (where Russia has veto power.) This stymies Obama, most likely, making him and the U.S. look impotent. If Obama attacks anyway, then Putin has all sorts of options, the most extreme being a Brit ship goes to the bottom. A little lower on the scale, Putin could simply send a big arms shipment to Assad.


166 posted on 08/26/2013 2:06:42 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Netz

Agreed.


167 posted on 08/26/2013 2:07:24 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Paul R.
I do not think Obama will hit Syria “hard”, that is the crux of this entire operation. He, the President, has to be seen “punishing” the Assad regime but not too much.
He is the author of “Soft power” isn't he?

Therefore, I throw out the proposition that Obama launches 37 Tomahawks, lots of empty buildings hit, maybe the Ministry of Defense (empty at 03:00) and a Republican Guard base, no more than that.

He quickly announces that it's all over and let that be a lesson to you Assad...

Putin would sink a British warship? I do not see it as it would require an escalation, something nobody wants.

168 posted on 08/26/2013 2:07:31 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Terry L Smith
Unfortunately, its not as simple as that. Syria is a much more cosmopolitan culture. The Assad regime, for all its faults (and they are many), has kept all the contending factions from ripping each other apart. Broadly speaking, the rebels are the majority population of sunni muslims, backed by the muslim brotherhood and now apparently by the US and the West. The Assad regime is backed by the rest of the population - Shia muslim, druze, christians (10% of Syria's people), Alawites (a kind of heretical muslim sect) and Russia and China.

Why are we helping the sunni and the muslim brotherhood? Who knows. Probably because we want to counter chinese and russian influence in the area. Bad way to go about it though.

169 posted on 08/26/2013 3:11:36 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: edcoil
GREAT - whose side are we on?

Doesn't matter. We don't know who did the gassing so we're going to blow something up. We don't know who. We don't know why. But by golly, the MSM is going to have a wag the dog photo op for its pet presitard.

170 posted on 08/26/2013 3:29:14 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Netz
Israel knows that this is a litmus test for Iran and that means Israel will probably have to hit Iran soon or else face destruction. Israel must rely on itself for the Syrian civil war has shown that the “international Community” will always hesitate to step in and stop a slaughter.

Watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8ev85axZ6I

171 posted on 08/26/2013 3:29:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: BenLurkin

“SO what did Congress say when Hussein asked them for permission?”

Even asking that question could mean you are a racist. Just ask anyone at NBC/ABC/CBS/NPR/MSNBC/E!/Pacifica/NYTimes etc...


172 posted on 08/26/2013 3:30:53 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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173 posted on 08/26/2013 3:49:32 AM PDT by SJackson ( The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. BF)
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To: SoFloFreeper

:: the gas attack believed to have been carried out by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces ::

Odd thing is, the evidence points to the attacks as being made by the rebels on their own areas; typical Muslim strategy to garner Western support and ultimately make the West look foolish.


174 posted on 08/26/2013 4:42:46 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I pray for our service personnel, being put in harms way to increase islamofascism in the ME.


175 posted on 08/26/2013 4:52:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Fai Mao
There is not good side in this. Both sides are the wrong side.

Strictly speaking you're correct.But in each matter there *was* a side that was less wrong than the other,Egypt being a perfect example.

176 posted on 08/26/2013 5:19:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Expect strikes against Egypt soon also.

We are now allies of the Muslim Brotherhood.

177 posted on 08/26/2013 5:19:53 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: blaquebyrd
I don't care who the President is always, bet on the American military!

I wish that was the case but the military only takes orders from the higher ups and I'm convinced those in charge wouldn't mind seeing a couple of are ships sunk.

EX Navy Chief here...

178 posted on 08/26/2013 6:11:22 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: Doofer

...our ships sunk...


179 posted on 08/26/2013 6:12:48 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: Paul R.

That would have been a great plan if true, but I don’t think AQ is going to cooperate by lining up in formation.

This whole thing is a fool’s errand, no matter what plan they go in with. Like they say.....a war plan never survives the first shot ( or something like that).


180 posted on 08/26/2013 6:22:35 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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