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The Failed Grand Strategy in the Middle East
Wall Street Journal ^ | Aug 23, 2013 | WALTER RUSSELL MEAD

Posted on 08/24/2013 6:25:11 AM PDT by Innovative

The Obama administration had a grand strategy in the Middle East. It was well intentioned, carefully crafted and consistently pursued.

Unfortunately, it failed.

The plan was simple but elegant: The U.S. would work with moderate Islamist groups like Turkey's AK Party and Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood to make the Middle East more democratic.

President Obama (whom I voted for in 2008) and his team hoped that the success of the new grand strategy would demonstrate once and for all that liberal Democrats were capable stewards of American foreign policy.

... it appears that the White House made five big miscalculations about the Middle East. It misread the political maturity and capability of the Islamist groups it supported; ....

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; iran; middleeast; muslimbrotherhood; obama; syria
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To: SC_Pete

And perhaps the job of the Author is to misdirect as part of the lefts plan to destroy and remake ‘Amerika into their image.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 7:05:42 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: ModelBreaker
"The problem was not political maturity or capability. The MB has been quite capable at all things important to it—seizing power and imposing an Islamic State. It should have worked—they had Obama on their side with the threat (now underway) to cut off military aid to the generals. But it turned out Egypt has a large secular middle class who don’t want their kids to grow up with silly beards and burkhas, bless them, they took to the streets."

And, crucially, Saudi Arabia and several other gulf states are backing the Egyptian military and sending far more money than the total of US military aid.

22 posted on 08/24/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Straight Vermonter
I’m sure they do not intend elections for the executive leadership of the country but democracy has a way of expanding itself.

Its really not democracy at all we should be promoting. We don't live in one (a democracy).

Its Liberty we should be supporting.

23 posted on 08/24/2013 7:10:59 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby
Its really not democracy at all we should be promoting...Its Liberty we should be supporting.

One generally flows from the other.

24 posted on 08/24/2013 7:17:39 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Innovative
The U.S. would work with moderate Islamist groups like Turkey's AK Party and Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood to make the Middle East more democratic.

Do you actually need to read past this sentence?

Moderate Islamist Groups? Muslim Brotherhood?

Is he kidding or just stupid?

The stated goal of the Muslim Brotherhood is to create a Worldwide Caliphate and impose Shiriah Law on every living human being. This is "moderate"?

My best YouTube link for learning the truth about the Muslim Brotherhood:

Stephen Coughlin, Lectures on the Jihadist Threat

25 posted on 08/24/2013 7:18:56 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Innovative

There was a whole lot of getting the cart before the horse that died from Hillary beating it with her values of Democracy stick.

A few points to remember before engaging in future fiascoes: Islam is like old dynamite. Play with it at your own risk, and don’t feel betrayed when it blows up in your face.

Moderate is an overused, meaningless word, especially when used for wishful thinking, like applying it to Islam.

Democracy is mob rule. If you want good values out of it. You have to start by teaching those values to the mob. Good luck teaching values that have their roots in Christendom to Muslims.

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26 posted on 08/24/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Innovative

The author is either a complete idiot or enemy agent. To characterize the Muslimbros as somehow “moderate” is like claiming their western mentors ,the national socialist party of Germany , were only “moderates”. The authors world view is insane. Or just plain stupid. Either way its amazing the editors of the Wall Street journal didn’t catch it.


27 posted on 08/24/2013 7:25:56 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Innovative
The plan was simple but elegant...

Simple plans that pay no attention to truth and details always fail. The devil is in the details. Because ideology is supreme, Obama pays no attention to details or reality. His plans are based on how he wants the world to be, not how the world actually is.

28 posted on 08/24/2013 7:26:03 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Jimmy Carter is feeling a bit better about his legacy these days since he can no longer be looked at as one of the worst Presidents in our nation’s history.

Oh, he's still one of the worst presidents, but has been bumped to the No. 2 position by the "Fairy Prince", BHO.

29 posted on 08/24/2013 7:30:12 AM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: ModelBreaker
Much of Obama’s foreign policy seems to be based on the idea that it would be a good idea for the middle east to be ruled by hardcore Islamist dictators, so long as they have the figleaf of one election—kind of the Allende/Chavez model.

With the exception of the quote above I agree 100% with your analysis. But I believe that it is Obama's support for the Muslim Brotherhood that is the driving force behind his Egyptian and Middle Eastern foreign policy. The common denominator is "Support the Muslim Brotherhood". Assume that and you can predict his actions perfectly.

30 posted on 08/24/2013 7:34:51 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Innovative

He’s making excuses. He is not awakening to anything. He is and will remain in denial because his head is up his *ss.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 7:40:19 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Straight Vermonter
One generally flows from the other.

or it doesn't, like in the case of pre-nazi germany.

Part of the problem is using the left's terminology. The founders of this country did not want democracy, they wanted Freedom and Liberty.

32 posted on 08/24/2013 7:55:05 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Spirochete

No,understating the threat of radical islam was not to “calm the public” but to win relection.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 7:57:40 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Innovative

If the Muslim Brotherhood is moderate why did they assasinate Egyptian President Anwar Sadat?


34 posted on 08/24/2013 8:00:40 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: dps.inspect

Good point. Joseph Goebbels was a very wily mentor to these folks. You notice how many time the LEFT uses his name in relation to conservatives? They are obsessed with Nazi propaganda—but not for the reason they say.


35 posted on 08/24/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: InterceptPoint

The Left in the U.S. has never supported moderates - anywhere. They don’t even support moderates in this country - why would they do it in the ME?

Did Obama even once denounce Morsi’s increasing stranglehold on the government of Egypt? No, because he approved of it. Was he concerned that Morsi was not moderate? No!

The author is quite delusional about his pal and fellow traveler Obama. But it makes the Left feel better that somehow they are moderates and freedom lovers are extremists.

Obama, and the Clintons before him, had a clear plan for dealing with Islam. Let them form a Caliphate with strong institutions to control the small-scale bombers and rabble-rousers. Of course, this mega Islamic state would have nuclear weapons, but their “rational” leaders like Morsi would be “contained” with mutual assured destruction, just like we did with the Soviet Union for several decades.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 8:17:54 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber
Let them form a Caliphate with strong institutions to control the small-scale bombers and rabble-rousers.

I'm sure you are referring to a Middle East Only Caliphate. Take a look at the Muslim Brotherhood goals and you find that the Caliphate they are after includes you, me and every other human being on earth. They want us all to enjoy the emancipating joy of Shariah Law.

37 posted on 08/24/2013 8:33:17 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Innovative
But he is still under the impression that it was just naivite on Obama's part... rather than a deliberate strategy.

Yup...exactly.

38 posted on 08/24/2013 8:35:24 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There are moderates and their strength is responsible for the downfall of the MB in Egypt.

For instance, Usama Bin Ladin was the well educated son of a still powerful construction group operating in western Saudi Arabia. His family was not radical and can be defined as moderate. They disowned him and kicked him out in the cold. They are an example of the many large and solid business families in Saudi Arabia who are definitely not radical and must be considered moderate. They are in the process of transforming the oil economy into one of manufacturing aand trade.

The Military, the military, the military....... All we hear about is the Egyptian military. The military works in tandem with a secular, ie moderate business leadership that controls the economy. The MB damaged the economy so the military was tasked with returning the country to the status quo favorable to business.

Although Qatar was dissed and has some radical elements, it is part of the Gulf Cooperation Council. They collectively are the strong economic force in the region. They need Egypt to shore up their western flank. They are accomplishing that goal. Ditto Syria. They will eventually prevail. The author refers to Saudi Arabia but means the GCC. The Saudi endeavor is in fact the totality of the GCC.

The moderates can not have the radical wackos in control because it is bad for business. Business trumps radical Islam

That is to say, business trumps radical Islam


39 posted on 08/24/2013 8:57:06 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: FlyingEagle
Aug. 21, 2007 : Erdoğan on the term "moderate Islam," often used in the West to describe his AK Party: "These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it."
40 posted on 08/24/2013 10:09:52 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Tuffy Gessling, George Zimmerman:They can crash at my pad anytime they like)
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