Posted on 08/16/2013 10:27:07 AM PDT by xzins
Facing condemnation at every hand from the West, Egypt’s military rulers received a powerful shot in the arm from Riyadh Friday, Aug. 16, with an unprecedented public assurance from Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdel Aziz that the kingdom supports Egypt in the fight “against terrorism” – the military rulers’ term for Muslim Brotherhood resistance. In a statement broadcast by official Al-Ekhbariya TV, Abdullah said Egypt’s stability is being targeted by “haters” and warned that anyone that interferes in Egypt’s internal affairs seeks to “waken sedition.”
debkafile and DEBKA Weekly have been reporting since last week that Saudi Arabia and the UAR stand firmly behind Egypt’s military strongman Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi.
debkafile reports a weak response to Brotherhood’s call for millions to rally Friday to join in the protest in support of deposed president Mohamed Morsi and against the government crackdown two days ago which left more than 600 dead. No more than tens of thousands of supporters took to the streets across the country Friday. By the early hours of the evening, 50 people were reported killed in clashes across the country – in Cairo, Fayoum, Damietta and Ismailia - including a number of security personnel. The figure is expected to rise. An officer was killed at one of the checkpoints thrown up to block the demonstrators’ access to Tahrir Square. The relatively low turnout points to the Muslim Brotherhood’s hard core having decided that avoiding further deadly clashes with the Egyptian military is the better part of valor.
Thursday, Aug. 15, debkafile referred to Saudi support for the Egyptian military ruler in an article captioned: US-Egyptian relations are on the rocks.
When the clashes between Egyptian security forces and pro-Morsi protesters were at their peak in Cairo Wednesday, Aug. 14 – 525 dead and 3,700 wounded to date - President Barack Obama put in a call to Egypt’s strongman, Defense Minister Gen. Abdel-Fattah El-Sissi, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The US president wanted to give the general a dressing-down much on the lines of the call he made to former president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011 at the high point of the Arab Spring Tahrir Sq demonstrations against his rule, namely: Stop repressing the protesters and firing live ammunition. Step down!
When Mubarak asked for a three or four days’ grace to break up the massed rally, Obama shot back that he has to quit NOW!
And indeed, on Feb. 11, the army announced the president’s resignation.
Realizing what was coming, Gen. El-Sissi decided not to accept President Obama’s call, our sources report. The Egyptian officials who received it informed the US president politely that the right person for him to address was Egypt’s interim president Adly Mansour and they would be glad to transfer the call to him. The White House callers declined.
This anecdote shows that the military strongman is not only determined to avoid the pitfalls which brought Mubarak down but is equally determined to keep the US administration from interfering in his plans for driving the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egyptian politics.
Diplomatic condemnation of those plans is building up inWestern capitals. Wednesday night, the Obama White House issued a statement strongly condemning “the use of violence against protesters in Egypt” and the state of emergency. Egyptian ambassadors in Paris, London and Berlin received denunciations and expressions of concern from their host governments, and Turkey demanded a UN Security Council emergency session on the situation in Egypt. debkafile’s sources report that harsh international condemnation of Gen. El-Sissi’s crackdown will do more harm than good. The backlash will come in three forms: 1. The Muslim Brotherhood will be encouraged to pursue increasingly extreme measures to fight the Egyptian army in the expectation of international applause. 2. The generals will be encouraged to escalate their steps for repressing the Brotherhood. 3. The Saudis and the Gulf Emirates will redouble their support for the Egyptian general and his campaign against the Brotherhood. This will widen the rift between those Arab rulers and the Obama administration.
Our intelligence sources also disclose that, while President Obama was trying to get through to Gen. El-Sissi, the general was on the phone with Prince Bandar, Director of Saudi Intelligence. On July 31, Bandar arrived in Moscow and was immediately received by President Vladimir Putin for a conversation that lasted four hours. The Saudi prince next received an invitation to visit Washington at his earliest convenience and meet with President Obama. Bandar has still not responded to that invitation.
Clearly, the US president’s problem with the Egyptian situation is a lot more complicated than pulling the army off the Muslim Brotherhood’s backs. He needs to somehow snap the strategic alliance unfolding between Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and the rapport between the Egyptian general and the Saudi prince.
The US president wanted to give the general a dressing-down much on the lines of the call he made to former president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011 at the high point of the Arab Spring Tahrir Sq demonstrations against his rule, namely: Stop repressing the protesters and firing live ammunition. Step down!
When Mubarak asked for a three or four days’ grace to break up the massed rally, Obama shot back that he has to quit NOW!
And indeed, on Feb. 11, the army announced the president’s resignation.
Realizing what was coming, Gen. El-Sissi decided not to accept President Obama’s call, our sources report. The Egyptian officials who received it informed the US president politely that the right person for him to address was Egypt’s interim president Adly Mansour and they would be glad to transfer the call to him
Isnt this the guy thaty Barry bowed to ???
Barry better get on TV and back the military too..
If something will get him off the golf course, it will be the sound of his master’s voice...
This is becoming absolutely fascinating.
Abdullah said Egypt’s stability is being targeted by “haters” and warned that anyone that interferes in Egypt’s internal affairs seeks to “waken sedition.”
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Oh dear..
a public Barry smack down..
Yo dissin da Barry ..
When Bashar gives his support, I’ll be paying particular attention.
Isaiah 19: 21-25 And the LORD shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the LORD in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the LORD, and perform it. And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them. In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
Is Saudi King Abdullah taking Barry to the Camel shed
Wonder if the Saudis have buyers remorse over funding the Obamanut.
It’s a sorry mess when we need to rely on Putin and Abdullah to do the right thing.
The Saudis are the biggest backers of terrorism on the planet. But they want it to be THEIR terrorism, not something that might threaten their seat on the throne that controls Mecca.
If they spend a few billion propping up the army in Egypt instead of buying off all our politicians and academics, so much the better.
We better be careful nmot to upset the Saudis or they’ll send in their Army which, of course, is OUR army.
Assyria is Ninevah. And Ninevah is modern day Mosul in Northeastern Iraq.
When Egypt aligns with Iraq that should be interesting.
Take a bow Barry! You really wrapped things around the axle this time.
That is interesting. Modern day Syria was mostly part of the ancient Assyrian empire. Damascus was included. I think Syria or Iraq could fulfill the prophecy. I’m currently inclined to think of Syria because of the unrest there. Not that Iraq couldn’t turn after any give Friday.
This will take place at the end, when the Lord Jesus Christ returns.
Why do you say that?
The part of the prophecy has a future fulfillent, not a “now” fulfillment...v. 20 And it will become a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the LORD because of oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Champion (Lit., Mighty One), and He willdeliver them.”
The highway from Egypt to Assyria will be “in that day,” v. 23—there was not a highway from Egypt to Assyria in the days of the Assyrian Empire, nor is there now...nor have Egyptians and Assyrians worshiped together, with Israel as the third party (v. 23-24)—BUT WHEN THEIR MESSIAH RETURNS TO RULE AND REIGN FROM JERUSALEM these things will be fulfilled—in that day.
Because “in that day” is a common phrase in prophecy that refers to the Day of the Lord (see Joel and all the prophets); also taking the verses literally, that is, in their plain normal sense, these things haven’t occured yet. See #15.
This muslim v. muslim stuff will soon render away the surrogate antagonists to reveal the underlying true conflict of Sunni v. Shia, Saudi v. Iranian. Once the real war breaks out we are back to the Saddam v. Ayatollah style mass slaughter. At that point we stand aside and let them fight to the death. Let the whole muslim world immolate itself.
The entire chapter is about Egypt, and there is not necessarily a chronological sequence as you go from the first verse and continue to the 25th verse.
Separate Issues:
1&2
3
4
5-8
9-10
11-13
14-15
(in that day)
16-17
18-
19-22
23
24-25
You do have sunni versus shia
You also have Kurds who have separate issues
Let's keep an eagle eye out on this drama.
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