Posted on 08/13/2013 3:12:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Via Mediaite and MFP, forget the legal niceties about what “natural born” might or should mean and look at this from a court’s perspective. Realistically, no judge is going to disqualify a national figure who stands a real chance of being the nominee of one of the two major parties unless the law leaves them no wiggle room to rule otherwise. Tens of millions of Americans would be willing to vote for Ted Cruz; to strike him from the ballot on a technicality in an ambiguous case would be momentously undemocratic. Against that backdrop, the Supreme Court would almost certainly end up reading “natural born” in the narrowest way, excluding anyone who was born abroad of two non-citizen parents but including everyone else. Cruz, who was born in Canada but whose mother was a U.S. citizen, would qualify, not only for the reason Ace gives here but more broadly because courts don’t want to be seen as hard-ass enforcers of what’s perceived by many to be an unusually archaic bit of the Constitution. They’ll dump a true foreigner because they have to. They don’t have to dump the son of an American citizen like Cruz, so they won’t. Take it to the bank.
But never mind that. Given the angst and ambiguity over the “natural born” clause in the last two cycles, why not pass an amendment to replace it with something like, say, a 25-year residency requirement? The point of the clause was to make sure that rich foreigners couldn’t cross the ocean and buy their way into the presidency, which wasn’t a baseless concern for a group of former British subjects who worried about loyalists to the throne subverting the revolution. In practice, though, it means that someone who’s born on U.S. soil but lives their entire life abroad, only to return and run for president decades later, is constitutionally more trustworthy than someone like Cruz who was born abroad but has lived his entire life here. Does anyone question whether Ted Cruz, decades later, might be more loyal to Canada than to the U.S.? Right at this moment, House Republicans are gearing up to pass a variation of the DREAM Act that would grant citizenship to illegals who were brought here at a young age by their parents on the theory that the place where you’re raised is more likely to shape your patriotic loyalty than the happenstance of your birth. If those kids are trustworthy enough to help decide at the polls who the president should be, why shouldn’t they be eligible for the presidency themselves? In a democracy, the president is, or should be, drawn from the citizenry. People who take certain draconian disqualifying actions, like committing felonies, are an exception, but what action has Cruz taken? Replace “natural born” with a residency requirement, which gives people the power to prove their loyalty, and you solve that problem.
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Here she goes again. Why is it that every presidential election she butts in and supports the GOPe candidate? I haven’t forgiven her for the last betrayal.
Then Barack Obama and Marco Rubio are ineligible. Since Mr. Obama is already into his second term and no one on Earth is going to do anything about that, isn’t that biased against Senator Cruz?
Where was she? Insisting every waking moment he was born in Hawaii. I think that anorexia of hers fried her brain.
Uh, because she is, at bottom, a Lindsay/Rockefeller/Ripon Republican with a gloss of conservatism?
The hospital is Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. The attending physician was Dr. David A Sinclair, the time of birth was 7:24 pm, the date of birth was August 4, 1961 and in 2009, the hospital published a letter from Obama in their Centennial Anniversary Magazine in which Obama thanked Kapi’olani for being “the place of my birth.”
They’ve heard of him.
Former Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”
If he runs, I’m voting for him.
After the pass given to Obama, the “natural born citizen” clause is no longer relevant.
The “Natural Born Citizen” clause was intended to avoid the possibility that a president like Obama would have divided loyalty.
I have no doubt that Ted Cruz does not have a divided loyalty. Ted Cruz is the most Loyal All American person in the Senate and the most All American potential candidate out there.
We need a president who represents and defends the Values and beliefs that made America a once great nation. Ted Cruz represents those values. In that sense, you can’t find a candidate out there who is more naturally born an American that Ted Cruz.
Apparently no one one God’s green Earth has standing to challenge this issue, so he’s in.
I am so sick of this stupid c**t. I can’t believe I actually bought one of her damn books. Go to hell, Ann.
Did anyone ever figure out the issue of who exactly has the ‘standing’ to actually push this issue in the courts?
Two, actually. King George VI Hospital in Nairobi, Kenya and Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa District, Kenya. You don’t recall them from when we were discussing this in the past?
Isn’t she a self-proclaimed Cruz supporter?
Do you have documented evidence including a real birth certificate?
In your experience, how many conservative voters do cartoon campaign posters convince? Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen as understood by the founders of this country.
Ann and Crispy must be getting back together again. She defiles and ridicules anyone who even suggests Hussein is not eligible.
If they try to keep Cruz from running he needs to remind everyone that Barkey’s Dad was from Africa and his mom was too young at the time of his birth to confer citizenship on him. Nevermind that no hospital in Hawaii will admit he was born there.
Cruz on the SCOTUS...I would love to see that!
Shouldnt you be spouting this crap over at Democratic Underground??
If by Cruz you mean Christie, then yes.
0bama’s mother was too young at the time of his birth to be able to pass on citizenship.
“Didn’t the US Senate once pass a resolution declaring Juan McLame to be “natural born”? “
Yes because Juan was likely also ineligible. To attempt to put it to rest the Senate passed a resolution declaring him an NBC although the resolution as no authority of law whatsoever.
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