Posted on 08/07/2013 11:52:01 AM PDT by illiac
The presidential election ended almost nine months ago, but Mitt Romney re-emerged Tuesday to continue his fight against President Barack Obama’s policies and assert himself as a Republican Party elder at a time when the party is struggling to find its path forward.
Romney sought to re-establish himself as a force within the GOP with a speech in the politically crucial state of New Hampshire, weighing in on the fractious battles to play out within the Republican Party since last November.
The former Massachusetts governor most pointedly sought to tamp down a charge led by Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Tea Party conservatives, who have vowed not to fund the government — risking a government shutdown — unless Obama's health care law is defunded.
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” Don’t forget the degree of cowardice “
Fear not, I didn’t .
Btw, wasn't it brave of McStain to travel all the way to Syria just to negotiate with terrorists leaders? (while finding the time to call Rand Paul and Ted Cruz "loony birds"?)
McStain: A True Patriot®. In an Alternative Universe.
McCain has been an evil SOB since he was a kid. It infuriated me no end that he had 21 million to BUY his re-election.
There are 21 million reasons that he may be the reincarnation of Satan himself. A contrarian, treasonous, treacherous turncoat and collaborating Statist-Fascist. And yes, his evil can be traced to the moment the crown of his head emerged out of his mama, Rosemary.
0bama -- we already know he's evil, HE knows he's evil. But woe to those who pretend to act on behalf of righteousness. Like McCain. And the minions of GOPe and the fascist, anti-America enablers.
If we can stop amnesty, we might survive Obama. If we can’t, it won’t matter much. The globalist agenda will take over and fast!
And where did this insanity all start? Right at the altar of one G.W. Bush.
Bingo!
The one time he attacked Obama, he backed of within a day, and went off with his tail between his legs.
Romney was never a force in the Republican Party. He won the nomination against a bunch of has-beens and never-has-beens.
He'll have zero influence now.
Sit down and STFU, Mitt. You had your chance, you blew it. Go away!
Assachusetts, Red Hampshire...what difference does it make? Guar-an-damn-tee Red Hampshire democrats are looking forward to voting in the 2016 GOP primary for their favorite Republican squish...probably Christie.
I recognize that could very well be the long and the short of it. I personally allow for human factors playing in. If you're in there and there is a lot of heat, there's a tendency to seek refuge in the majority opinion.
Personally, I couldn't do it, but I do think there are a lot of people out there who can.
Let's remember that it has taken us years to assimilate information and come to where we are now as it relates to Conservatism.
It's all too easy to assume, that just because someone was elected, they have gone through this process and grasp things like we do.
WRONG!
Generally speaking, these are people who didn't focus on Conservative ideals for years and years. They are people who stumbled upon a window of opportunity, and became our elected officials not by trial by fire. We can't blame them for not getting it. We can't assume the worst because they don't.
These people are way behind the curve.
Those that have been courted by the elites, sure we can fault them for that. We should. Still, I think it's just too easy for us to assume the worst. Humans being what they are, people screw up. I think this covers more than most people think.
You get to a McCain, oh no doubt where this jackass is coming from. You get a new guy just on the block, and I think there's an even chance the guy hasn't got a real clue.
So you think Mitt doesn’t promise free stuff. Well he sure does give out free stuff, like $50.00 or less abortions and free cars to welfare recipients in Massachusetts.
It wasn’t a lack of ability to promise free stuff to people that did him in. He’s done that multiple times. He can lie, cheat, steal and promise the moon to anyone. He just has no heart to run against his fellow liberals and democrats.
Ann Barnhardt reached right down Willard’s throat, grabbed his testicles, pulled them out, and tossed them into the gutter for the dogs...absolutely deconstructed the fraud. If more thinking Americans had seen this; he might not have been the nominee.
Quick show of hands...anyone here feel a little silly for carrying water for that clown and his Eddie Munster looking sidekick last year? How about people who feel a little bad now about giving those of us grief who stayed home on election day or voted 3rd party?
I know. Pull the lever for the (R) instinctively. I'd agree with that characterization. But its in the promary where the fun and games begins, and the RNC-GOPe select THEIR nominee. This, The Fix is in before it's GOP vs. Dem. Ergo, the activism and outrage against the GOPe/RNC manipulation must preempt this vote and begin in the primary.
I agree with that. The Republicans have allowed the Democrats to enter their nominating process without so much as a whimper. Small states that are easily gamed, because they are much easier to saturate, carry way too much clout in the early process. A state that doesn't have more than six electoral votes, can all but eliminate some of the best we have with a limited war chest. That's dead wrong. Some of these small states, God love ya, but you have screwed us over so many times it's patently absurd to let you do it again. Does the RNC even hint that they grasp any of this? No.
This is something that needs to be addressed and changed.
I remain unconvinced that Congress (the Republican wing) does get it. Witness immigration reform, Obamacare defunding, NSA Spying... We've got some very clueless bastards in there these days. There would be open rebellion in the House right now if more than a very few Representatives grasped the issues as a Conservative should.
Q: DO they "get it" and simply are intimidated/compensated with 30 pieces of silver to vote with the GOPe/Rockefeller Elites? ARE they Trojan Horse subversives? Or are they truly THIS ignorant? Could be all of the above.
I don't know. How do you quantify it. I could tell you what my suspicioins are, but they'd be wild guesses. I'm not that much of an insider. I can only tell what it looks like to me, and another person could come up with something else that would sound quite reasoned.
Any "open rebellion" by those who truly care about America could well be tempered by threats of blackmail, removal from positions of power, and...financial considerations. Patriotism appears to be far down on the list, apparently and sadly.
Yes, it could be. Now, is that true, or is it just that we have a clueless ass-hat clow as Speaker? Or is it perhaps that he has been manipulated by the Rockerfeller operatives? Is it the Rockerfellers, the Bilderbergers, the Iluminati, or the Masons... and this is the short list.
Is it another group so far un-named? Heck, is it the all the above? This is why I shy away from going all-in here.
You may be trying to lead me to the Rockerfeller paradigm, and I'm not going to avoid it if that's what you want to do. The fact remains, at least IMO, that these are not America First Conservatives.
We're left with fast-tracking a solution if we're right (and I believe we are.) Is it possible at this late juncture?
I tend to doubt it. The more correct you are, the more time these groups have a jump on you. We're talking groups who have been around for 60 plus years all the way up to thousands of years.
Every once in a while a guy comes out of the blue to surprise even them. Ronald Reagan was such a man. George Bush was their guy in 1980. Reagan set him up and mowed him down. Did my heart good to see it. I knew even then exactly what Reagan was accomplishing against the odds, and it was a Conservative's feast to watch it.
I think we're talking past each other here. You're saying they get it because they are going along with Leftist goals. I say they don't get it because they are going along with Leftist goals.
Do they get Conservatism? That's the question at hand. No they don't. You may think they do, but are ignoring it.
I may have just preemptively answered your questions. The process begins in the primaries. D1, do you recall the controversy in NY state when Newt and the GOPe/RNC were exposed trying to support liberal Dede Scozzafaza and failed? I think that singular example is how and why the GOP opposes conservatism AND obviously refuses to support conservative in Primaries. Our voters are then left with the default "lesser of two evils." On a grander scale, it was Romney.
Along the lines of what you have postulated, a group from behind the scenes can also manipulate the primaries. I would submit that if these people are doing what you think they are, they have masterminded the process so that our people do not prevail in the primaries. Perhaps that's what you're trying to say, without actually coming out and making that clear. I don't know for sure.
These folks don't support it. They are not Conservatives. They don't get the overpowering message of Conservatism. Their heart is in another place. They DON'T get it, like you and I get it.
Again -- the root of this cycle begins in the RNC-GOPe Rockefeller machination. Expose just who is behind THAT curtain, and things change. I'm afraid it'll take rash actions to tear out the guts of that operation and real power behind the scene.
I'd like to think it's as simple as blaming it on a Rockefeller conspiracy. I'm not quite as firm on that. There are vaious and numerous manipulators out there. We probably don't know the half of it. Individuals as well as groups wield a lot of power. Pay to play is a powerful tool.
I think we agree across the board more than you think we do. We may express it different ways, but we're on the same page.I believe that, D1. We're on the same team. It's just a mess of dynamics that's difficult to articulate. Thanks for your perspective as usual.
Yes, I do believe there is a mess of dynamics involved. Thank you too.
As I understand it, they only need to pick off 18 or so RINOs to get the immigration fix done.
As you said, it doesn’t take convincing everyone.
This is true; what's funny is I was called a loser for voting third party in 2012 and blamed for his loss on this site even.
I still would like to know how Milt could be such a lousy candidate.
Oh, the magic there is that he's Obama's political clone — understand that and you understand how.
Given that it’s perfectly valid use of the word ‘conservative’ to describe keeping things status quo, I think some other descriptor may be appropriate.
People in MA won’t vote for Mittens again; so why did Republican primary voters see something the MA party liberals don’t.
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