Are Conspiracy Theories Sometimes True?

[pinochet]

Often, when a Freeper proposes an idea that seems too crazy to be true, we totally dismiss him, and describe him as one who wears tin foil hats. One year ago, nobody would have believed that the American government spies on everyone. If someone had suggested such a thing last year, he would have been dismissed as a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist.

What other theories have respectable American conservatives dismissed in the past, that may be true? I keep thinking back to Robert Welch of the John Birch Society of the 1960s, who suggested that there exists a communist conspiracy among elites in academia, to indoctrinate American youth in communist ideas. According to this theory, American communists realized that they could not take over the devoutly Bible-Believing American nation of the 1950s, with an armed revolt. America had too many Bible-Believers with guns, and they could not take over America with an army like they did in Russia in 1917. They also could not teach directly from the books of Marx, Engels, or Lenin. The American Commies are supposed to have developed a clever means of injecting communist ideas whenever they talked about American history or society.

According to this theory, college graduates would enter government institutions and implement communist ideas, without realizing that those ideas are communist. Mainstream conservatives such as William F. Buckley excommunicated Robert Welch from the "respectable" conservative movement, and dismissed him as a nut. When you think of Obama, Pelosi, Clinton, Schumer, Van Jones, Gore, Patty Murray, Ginsburg, and all those other leftists in public office, did they end up that way by accident? What about those college graduates doing the Occupy Wall Street stuff? Is that also a coincidence?

Were the Birchers wrong about everything?

[DaxtonBrown]

I wrote “Surviving civil War II” a year ago. Some thought it extreme. How about now?
http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php

[R_Kangel]

"Are Conspiracy Theories Sometimes True?"

..... Yup .... and the DHS, NSA, and all manner of alphabet agencies, departments, and offices are paid to uncover and determine the validity of whether they are true or not.

[Nowhere Man]

I used to, heck I still do, call friends and say, “I just called to tell you about my new plans to assassinate the president of the local bird watching and comforter sewing groups. More than once we would hear the volume drop and a few extra clicks on the line as the electronics started recording the call. I figure if they have the money to spend recording our calls then have at it. Let me add to the work load.

When my buddy went to France to study for a year back in 1988/89, he often would call me from there. As an experiment, one time I said to him, "I'm just sitting here listening to John Lennon (Lenin) and I'm wondering if you are getting good marks (Marx) over there." We swear that we did hear a few clicks in the line after that.

[USS Johnston]

If someone had described the Obama regime in detail during the GWB years, and told us that it would be upon us at the end of his term, that person would have been hooted off Free Republic with scorn and derision.

Not only that, what if someone just a year or two later theorized that GWB, Cheney, etal actually conspired to ensure the election of one Barack Hussein 0bama -- knowing full well his Marxist background, subversive associations, and intentions to destroy the USA "as we knew it"?

[phockthis]

Watch this short video and when you claim it’s b-—chit, read the court decision from Texas down below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6b4YrXayzE

“The rights of the individuals are restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government.”
City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944

[preacher]

“Goodbye” comes from "God be with you."

http://www.unm.edu/~dave/words/5-2.html

[Jabba the Nutt]

Conspiracy theories are all wrong, crazy, right-wing neanderthal meanderings, unless they are proposed by Hillary Clinton. She famously proposed the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, which the media immediately went out to investigate, seconds after condemning The Clinton Chronicles, the Clinton Death List, Tainted Blood and a whole slew of other conspiracies as the ravings of mad men.

[urtax$@work]

I have myself wondered about the Birch Society. Always heard
from the old media (before internet) that they were extremists
to be watched implications. Only recently looking at JBS on line few years ago (with my blinders off) did i start to think that i was lied to (again) by the old media.

Reading their stuff on line , i thought them pretty accurate in their future outlook about America.

Does anyone here know personally about the JBS? They go back
to the 40s or 50s and i did not come of voting age until the 70s after their ecplise.

[Kid Shelleen]

It would appear that Progressives have the same goals in mind as were outlined in the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx.

You should read Radical Son: A Generational Odyssey .

Red diaper baby turned conservative, David Horowitz, chronicles the agenda of the left and it affirms exactly that notion. He has first hand accounts of morally corrupt leftist organization like the SDS and Black Panthers and how even in the 60s they were protected by a friendly media.

[Windflier]

...what if someone just a year or two later theorized that GWB, Cheney, etal actually conspired to ensure the election of one Barack Hussein 0bama -- knowing full well his Marxist background, subversive associations, and intentions to destroy the USA "as we knew it"?

Today, I'd give them a warm handshake, and invite them for dinner, but five years ago? I would have thought they were some sort of Kook to Kook nutcase.

Given the sort of things we've witnessed since Obama usurped office, almost nothing is too farfetched to believe anymore.

[USS Johnston]

Today, I'd give them a warm handshake, and invite them for dinner, but five years ago? I would have thought they were some sort of Kook to Kook nutcase.

Flier, your intellectual honesty is both refreshing and appreciated.

I have been one of those frustrated "kooks" whose opinion and assessment (of what seemed obvious to me) warned of the stench of dead-rat politics long ago. On one hand of course I'm thrilled that folks as yourself have connected the dots of indictment, but remorseful that collusive bi-partisan efforts weren't sussed out earlier.

Given the sort of things we've witnessed since Obama usurped office, almost nothing is too farfetched to believe anymore.

That's just it; It's a Game-Changer of our Past-Beliefs. The worse thing any of us ever want to admit is...abuse of those we thought loved and respected us. 0bama could not possibly have come as far as he has without a lot of help people and places never imagined. From WITHIN the inside. Brutha, that make certain revelations even worse and our battle even more desperate than that of the Founders.

[USS Johnston]

He [David Horowitz] has first hand accounts of morally corrupt leftist organization like the SDS and Black Panthers and how even in the 60s they were protected by a friendly media.

Does Horowitz ever indict the Rockefeller-Wing of the Republican Party and their bi-partisan treason? Their collusion and hijacking of the RNC? Their responsibility in enabling the dominant Leftist machination to subvert the US Constitution, sovereignty, and culture...while naming names?

If not, he's still not being honest while stating the obvious: Just as America could NOT have been subverted without the help of a portion of faux-Republicans, 0bama could not have become President without the help of this very same faux-Republican element.

[USS Johnston]

The Republicans have seen the light. They know that conservatism just doesn't sell.

I strongly differ.

The pro-globalist RNC-Rockefeller Wing of the Republican Party has sandbagged the traditional Republican platform since Reagan left office, abandoned promoting real conservativism (as Reagan successfully did), subverted conservatism's actual political/economic/cultural principles, and...joined the Dark Side 25 years ago.

You can't sell what you refuse to promote, and can't sell a product you've purposely undermined (as mushy "Compassionate Conservatives" did, beginning with Mr. NWO himself, George H. Bush.