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Day 15 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 28, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/28/2013 5:14:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, June 28th, is DAY #15 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. [Yesterday] … it was simply not a very good day at all for the prosecution. The primary State witnesses today were Rachel Jeantel, Jenna Lauer, and Selma Mora.

The first had her credibility substantively destroyed, the second was powerfully–almost humiliatingly–co-opted by the defense, and the third provided testimony entirely consistent with the defense’s theory of lawful self-defense. (continue reading)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; floridojudicirats; georgezimmerman; kangaroo; kangaroocourt; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: kristinn; Uncle Chip

Thank you kristinn for your periodic updates...following these daily threads from work (mostly) and really appreciate it.

Justice for George and shame shame shame on the State.


141 posted on 06/28/2013 7:15:52 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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O'Mara on floor demonstrating to Good position of person on top. Good says the person on top was folded down on top. Then O'Mara demonstrates person top straddling on knees in vertical position with man flat on bottom. Both on sidewalk by now. Person on top using arms.

Good says he eye witnessed 8 to 10 seconds of struggle.

142 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:07 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Uncle Chip

Legal insurrection’s feed seems to be working well today. No buffering so far.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-live-jury-selection-day-7-all-day-coverage/


143 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:08 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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Entire time he was watching was only 8-10 seconds


144 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SteveH

WFTV using a graphic showing how JG is describing the fight: a CGI of a guy in a black hood is kneeling and straddling a guy in a red jacket lying beneath him.


145 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:37 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Bronzy

Good livestream:

http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html


146 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:48 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Prov1322

“She likely knows some words but I expect her primary language is her already demonstrated version of miami-ghetto-english.”

Ageed. She can’t read cursive but I would bet a million dollars that she can text ebonics faster than you and I can talk. :-)


147 posted on 06/28/2013 7:17:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SteveH

148 posted on 06/28/2013 7:18:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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Person on top was in straddle position — ground and pound position.

John just tries to weasle out saying that the guy on the bottom has the opportunity to strike the guy on top.


149 posted on 06/28/2013 7:18:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Good is giving a great explanation of “ground and pound,” which is an MMA term when the person on top dominant position (St. T.) is pounding the person on the bottom (George).


150 posted on 06/28/2013 7:19:27 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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John trying to say that the guy on the bottom couls be the dominant position — give it up, John.


151 posted on 06/28/2013 7:20:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Good explanation of MMA


152 posted on 06/28/2013 7:20:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Uncle Chip

but he also added that the person on the bottom did not (or at least he never saw that)


153 posted on 06/28/2013 7:22:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Uncle Chip

>> John trying to say that the guy on the bottom couls be the dominant position

Does it matter? Whether or not Z *theoretically could be* dominant from the bottom (in an MMA match, say) his injuries (and St. Trayvon’s lack of injuries) is strong evidence that Z was NOT in fact dominant from that position.


154 posted on 06/28/2013 7:24:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: JoeProBono

Is there any objection by delarat that the judge overruled?

Nevermind, I think I already know the answer.


155 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:06 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: hoosiermama

Lost the feed when John said George was screaming for help.


156 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:48 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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Someone got to John but he can only back off his testimony only so far.


157 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: MomofMarine

West is getting good descriptions of the MMA terms from JG.

West uses the excuse that someone in the audience made distracting noises, so gets JG to repeat some info.

West is going deliberately slow and imho repetitive, seemingly for the benefit of the jury, as if to teach the jury the details of JG’s testimony.

West getting JG to confirm that M on top, Z on bottom.


158 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:53 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Nervous Tick; Uncle Chip

My take is that JG is just trying to be very fair and accurate, without appearing to favor one side or the other. When you boil down his facts, they favor GZ.


159 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:59 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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O'Mara now asking about the 'ground and pound' description Good gave in first police interview. Says on top is dominant position, but person on bottom can punch back or escape but didn't see that.

Good says when he saw arm movement of person on top going down that he turned away to call 911. (But has said he can't say he saw punches.)

O'Mara goes back to initial cry for help. Good goes through process to say why he thinks it was person on bottom.

O'Mara then goes over BDLR's "histrionics" of thumping table to make punching noises. O'Mara gets Good to say he can't say if lack of hearing punches meant there were no punches.

160 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:59 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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