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I wonder what Stephen Colbert says about this?
1 posted on 06/10/2013 1:17:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Most people don't know the difference between flat files, relational databases and cube storage. They don't realize that, on the home database, a lot of personally identifiable information is embedded in the cell phone number (which is also the account number). They don't realize that a data manager with the appropriate authorities can drill down to that data. Most people defending the program reference court rulings issued during a more primitive time where a line of data was all that there was. I am not convinced that from numbers, to numbers, time and duration are the real metadata being collected. I am not convinced that PII isn't being mined. That PII when combined with other readily accessible information can create a personal profile on a person that the government has no right to.

For me the weekend raised more questions than it provided answers

2 posted on 06/10/2013 1:22:29 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


3 posted on 06/10/2013 1:23:10 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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An admitted LIAR to Congress.

So the question becomes:

Was HE the one who left Americans
to die in Benghazi OR Boston?


4 posted on 06/10/2013 1:23:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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Meanwhile terrorists in Afghanistan buy a disposable phone, make two calls then they pitch it.


5 posted on 06/10/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Ah ha! So it depends on the meaning of “collection”. Good to know, now. Everybody lying about this belongs in jail. Every last stooge.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 1:29:34 PM PDT by lodi90
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Heh...so the nation's top intelligence office is so guileless that he actually admits to lying, under oath, to those who are supposedly providing oversight?

Yeah, my trust in the government is certainly restored!

(sarcasm tag off)

8 posted on 06/10/2013 1:30:46 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Back in the 90’s, I was working at the NSA at Ft. Meade as a contractor for some equipment we had sold them.

My contact there told me that “If someone in Siberia talks on a walkie-talkie at four in the morning, we have it.”...........

They monitor EVERYTHING in electronic communications on this planet. PERIOD.........


9 posted on 06/10/2013 1:31:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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It's according to what the meaning of “is” is.

A Democrat district attorney took a political case against me to our State Attorney General, John Cornyn at the time, (case # JC-0330), on the basis of what the word “or” meant in a sentence. The district attorney lost and I won. I knew I was right to start with. That Democrat District Attorney lost his next election.

10 posted on 06/10/2013 1:32:33 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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“...to me, collection of U.S. persons’ data would mean taking the book off the shelf and opening it up and reading it.”

Could that meaning be used for, say, a gun collection???


11 posted on 06/10/2013 1:34:19 PM PDT by maggief
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So, the SOB runs to MSNBC’s sympathetic Andrea Mitchell to respond to why he lied to Senator Wyden.
12 posted on 06/10/2013 1:35:46 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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“Too cute by half” doesn’t even begin to describe it. When you state that you are collecting phone numbers but no names in an age when the average grade-schooler can do a reverse lookup from his cell phone you are lying, period.


13 posted on 06/10/2013 1:35:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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So, a library is only a collection of books(data) when it’s open and people are reading books?
Buy stock in tar and feathers because we need it by the truckload.


14 posted on 06/10/2013 1:48:37 PM PDT by Rad_J
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“If your excuse is that you are incapable of discerning what “any type of data at all” means, you are no longer allowed to keep a job title that has the word “intelligence” in it.”

- Jim Geraghty, National Review


15 posted on 06/10/2013 1:52:45 PM PDT by edwinland
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He never lied. He never told the truth. He says he told the 'least UNTRUTH'. What the hell is THAT? All depends what the meaning of lie is.

This goes out to the Threat Matrix Ping List. Anyone wanting on or off, you know the routine, I think.

17 posted on 06/10/2013 2:00:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: nickcarraway

depends on what ‘is’, is.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 2:01:37 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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Andrea Mitchell: What’s your favorite color?
Director Clapper: Plaid.
AM: Favorite ice cream?
DC: Neapolitan.
AM: I’m throwing you softballs, but I get the feeling those aren’t the least untruthful answers.
DC: You can’t handle the truth hatchetface.


21 posted on 06/10/2013 2:22:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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Where I come from testifying in the least untruthful manner is called perjury.


24 posted on 06/10/2013 2:44:37 PM PDT by circlecity
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What’s he’s really saying that since any answer he gave other than “no” would be construed as a yes (even if he asked for a 5 minutes to have the attorneys discuss the matter) he decided to just lie and say no.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 2:47:52 PM PDT by circlecity
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...”The outsourcing plan was finalized in 2000 by a special NSA Advisory Board set up to determine the agency’s future and codified in a secret report written by a then-obscure intelligence officer named James Clapper. “Clapper did a one-man study for the NSA Advisory Board,” recalls Ed Loomis, a 40-year NSA veteran who, along with Binney and two others, blew the whistle on corporate corruption at the NSA.

“His recommendation was that NSA acquire its internet capabilities from the private sector. The idea was, the private sector had the capability and we at NSA didn’t need to reinvent the wheel.”

Hayden, who was the NSA director at the time, “put a lot of trust in the private sector in the private sector, and a lot of trust in Clapper, because Clapper was his mentor,” added Loomis. And once he got approval, “he was hell-bent on privatization and nothing was going to derail that.” Clapper is now President Obama’s director of national intelligence, and has denounced the Guardian leaks as “reprehensible.”?...
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/meet-some-of-the-contractors-who-analyze-your-personal-data/


28 posted on 06/10/2013 9:25:02 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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