To: MichiganConservative
Do you know who owns the 'information' that constitutes a telephonic connection?
It ain't me ~ it's the phone company. It's never taken more than one warrant to get ALL the connections for a given period.
168 posted on
06/09/2013 2:21:00 PM PDT by
muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
So, you said you aren’t worried because they need a warrant, and now you say you know they just need one warrant to get all information about everyone’s call.
You do not see any problems with this? This is supposed to make me feel all warm and fuzzy?
176 posted on
06/09/2013 2:24:39 PM PDT by
MichiganConservative
(T. Jefferson's warning come true: THIS morning you woke up a slave to government and central bankers)
To: muawiyah
Yes I own the information I speak on a telephone, just like I own the information I email, or put in a letter. To say otherwise is completely ignorant, even for you.
244 posted on
06/09/2013 3:43:00 PM PDT by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: muawiyah; MichiganConservative; abb
My understanding from what I've read is that the Justice Department and FBI are the entities that got the information on US citizens for monitoring and that a court order was required to allow or force that information into the NSA’s systems for further use.
If so, then the NSA is, strictly speaking, not in the “wrong.”
This is much more likely something Holder or Obama thought up. The articles I've read show that there were some abuses by NSA workers by listening into conversations and spying on international communications to or from the US with officers in Afghanistan and elsewhere. However, can any of you point to definite abuse mentioned by the NSA without having the Justice Department or FBI involved, first, along with a FISA judge?
285 posted on
06/09/2013 7:52:14 PM PDT by
ConservativeMind
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