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DOJ: Anti-Muslim Rhetoric Could Violate Law
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 06/05/2013 3:54:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: DrewsMum

Yes... the KKK kills their own brain cells and loses their souls while islam kills everything and every one... including fellow muslims.

LLS


61 posted on 06/05/2013 9:52:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Kaslin
"We need to educate people about Muslims and their civil rights???"... I got educated about Muslims on 9/11...FU!!!
62 posted on 06/05/2013 10:09:47 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Marcella

Arab is still not a race - Arabs are Caucasoid for the most part ... many are of Black African ancestry ...

Arab is more like Hispanic in that it is a linguistic sub classification of a larger group. Also - just as Hispanic are of various races. You may have seen the term - non Hispanic white... I would suggest equally there could be a non Arab white - as many if not most Arabs are quite light skinned compared to others.

And as far as our government (such as it is) is concerned - legal actions under American law would need to comply with recognized classifications.

And - no I don’t defend the obama Administration — I despise it.


63 posted on 06/05/2013 11:22:43 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: libstripper

It is!


64 posted on 06/05/2013 11:29:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Will88
U.S. Attorney Bill Killian greeted by hostile crowd at Manchester, Tenn., free speech event
65 posted on 06/05/2013 11:58:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ICCtheWay

“Arab is still not a race”

Then, someone should tell that to U.S. Attorney Bill Killian because he and other US Attorneys are prosecuting Americans for hate crimes against “Arab Muslims”. If they aren’t recognized by our government, then why the prosecutions?

The link below is to an FR thread today about Killian being at a meeting in Tennessee to warn the Americans they will be prosecuted for hate speech against Arab Muslims. Go to the link at the thread to read what happened. From that thread/link:

“He told the audience that despite 50 prosecutions and convictions of hate crimes in his district, “far too many people are still repeating the same vicious acts against the Arab-Muslim ... “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027652/posts


66 posted on 06/05/2013 11:59:09 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Kaslin

Mohammed was a Child Rapist.


67 posted on 06/05/2013 12:00:12 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (MOHAMMED WAS A CHILD RAPIST!)
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To: Drawn7979
well they do violate the laws.

Would you please elaborate on that?

68 posted on 06/05/2013 12:01:02 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Kaslin

Well, what’s Holder going to do about anti-Jewish or anti-Christian rhetoric? Not a thing, because the Administration doesn’t care about those religions.


69 posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Pandering for Muslim votes.


70 posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Rummyfan

Thanks for the link. I’ve read a few reports of the meeting last night. Someone should have stood up and asked Killian if he considered: “Behead those who insult Islam”, to be a violation of anyone’s civil rights.

He’s just acting PC and sucking up to Islam, maybe to impress Holder and Obama. I think there still must be a specific threat to some specific person before any law has been broken.


71 posted on 06/05/2013 12:19:18 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

You can say that again.

Let me know when we get started re: testing the waters.

http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/the-real-meaning-behind-mecca-lecca-high-mecca-hiney-ho/


72 posted on 06/05/2013 12:35:20 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. Penance. Isa 5:18-21 Isa 10:1-3)
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To: Kaslin

Islam sucks Navy Seal balls. Muslims are not worthy of eating the dirt Jesus walked upon. Arrest me, you treasonous, commie pigs.


73 posted on 06/05/2013 12:58:26 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Marcella

I have read it ... and the Federal Attorney is threatening to prosecute - based on a photo of a man with a shotgun making references to Muslims. That was his original assertion. But he cannot do so - it is only an obama Administration induced threat. Yes - and WHERE your excerpt is the word RACE mentioned?

Islam is supposedly a religion - Muslims are followers of Islam. Neither term refers to RACE. Arab is also not a race.

Here is something for you to think about.

First Amendment Center president and executive director Gene Policinski said before the Manchester meeting on Tuesday that the details of the threat (photo of a man with a shotgun) and the specificity of its target are significant in determining how federal law applies to comments made in a public forum.

The threat “has to be likely, imminent and directed at a specific person,” Policinski said.

He said remarks such as those made by West (guy who posted the photo) are protected speech.

Killian didn’t address West’s post, except to acknowledge that it created a stir in the community.

“While [West’s] cartoon might be tasteless and crass and juvenile and even hateful, I think the founders of this nation provided for people to be able to express those views,” Policinski said. “When it comes to a public official, I think the market place idea is protected under the First Amendment, where voters can decide if this is the kind of person whose opinion and whose judgment they trust to hold public office.”

In all instances, the First Amendment “requires government to really demonstrate that it’s a true threat before they can restrict our speech,” he said.

And ‘Vicious Acts’ are not speech ... this is referring to acts such as burning a Mosque or destroying property ...


74 posted on 06/05/2013 1:08:51 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: SaraJohnson

” Islam sucks Navy Seal balls. Muslims are not worthy of eating the dirt Jesus walked upon. Arrest me, you treasonous, commie pigs.”

And the 72 virgins all look like Helen Thomas!


75 posted on 06/05/2013 1:09:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Portcall24
Unfortunately their form of worship Commands, and Demands, they burn rape and pillage!

Obviously you haven't read much of the queeranus.

Islam delenda est!

76 posted on 06/05/2013 2:06:10 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: ICCtheWay
Killian: “In all instances, the First Amendment ‘requires government to really demonstrate that it’s a true threat before they can restrict our speech,’ he said.”

The point I was making is, the government cannot be trusted to follow any law as written - they follow it the way they “want” it to be. In other words, what they would decide is “a true threat” would be whatever they want it to be. They get to define it and act. What we think it means, means nothing.

As far as ethnicity, they can also label anyone what they want. Hussein has labeled himself an American born on American soil in Hawaii. I have no idea what race he has labeled himself. A person may think he/she is of (whatever) race and the government can label them anything they want. I am labeled as a white American - I may personally change that to white “used to be an American before it became a communist Muslim country”.

I used to think laws meant something concrete - with Hussein, they mean whatever he wants them to mean. Hussein turned a penalty into a tax - he can do whatever he wants to interpret laws so they benefit his cause.

You are using rational thinking and facts - those mean nothing to Hussein and his government.

You and I are not on opposite sides - I have no quarrel with anything you have written but that doesn't mean Hussein acknowledges it as fact. He will do what he wants which is my point.

77 posted on 06/05/2013 2:11:51 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: cuban leaf
>"your first seven years are your first 70 years.

http://biblehub.com/proverbs/22-6.htm

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.


I must apologize for Wimp Lo, he is an idiot. We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke. Ha, face to foot style, how'd you like it?

Wimp Lo :48 sec

78 posted on 06/05/2013 2:18:54 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Kaslin

I can hate whomever I please. I can love whomever I please.

I will comment on both. I will state facts, opinions, conjecture, speculation, analysis, and synthesis at will.

I will not be silenced.

The Ministry of Truth will not censor me.

God gave me the right to self-expression, self-defense, self-determination, and the ability to sustain myself. Only God can take away that which He has given me.

Eric Holder has no authority over me, even if I choose to comment on a group he seeks to protect and advance in society.


79 posted on 06/05/2013 4:22:13 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: DrewsMum

80 posted on 06/05/2013 5:53:24 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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