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The reasons for a voluntary death
Nouvelles de France ^ | May 21, 2013 | Dominique Venner

Posted on 05/22/2013 5:40:02 PM PDT by annalex

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This is the suicide note by Dr. Dominique Venner, who, as you may know, shot himself in front of altar in the Notre Dame de Paris Cathedral in protest against the introduction of homosexual "marriage" and immigration policy in France.

May the good Lord Jesus Christ forgive him his despair and rest his soul among the saints. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, we fervently pray, amen.


1 posted on 05/22/2013 5:40:02 PM PDT by annalex
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To: JCBreckenridge; KC_Lion; La Lydia; Mrs. Don-o; PJammers; sinsofsolarempirefan; Belteshazzar; ...

Memory eternal.


2 posted on 05/22/2013 5:41:29 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I was waiting for this. Thank you, annalex.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 5:44:44 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: annalex
I weep for him.

It is so sad it has come to this. :(

4 posted on 05/22/2013 5:53:19 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: annalex
I am dreadfully sorry that he was apparently in his right mind and chose this cooperation with evil as a deliberate act. What a cruelty to his family. I do not judge, I cannot judge. I am sure there are more forms of madness, --"they know not what they do" --- than are found in the diagnostic handbooks.

He was apparently (that word again), apparently detached from Catholicism as anything but a civilizational force: he acknowledged neither sin nor Savior, nor hope for a personal existence beyond the one he was rejecting so sacrilegiously at the very altar of God.

I will still hope and pray that he may be snatched from the abyss. Great is Jesus' power to save.

5 posted on 05/22/2013 5:53:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae, Dies illa, / Solvet saeclum in favilla / Teste David et Sybilla.)
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To: annalex

A real beau geste.


6 posted on 05/22/2013 5:54:21 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: annalex

I sympathize with what he says about the loss of traditional values in France, Europe, and the West in general.

Nevertheless, this is a horrible paradox: trying to revive ancient traditions and Christian morality . . . by committing suicide.

May God have pity on his soul.


7 posted on 05/22/2013 5:54:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Cicero
The English Wikipedia quotes him to say
"The Japanese, the Jews, the Hindus and other peoples possess that treasure that has permitted them to confront the perils of history without disappearing. It is their misfortune that the majority of Europeans, and especially the French, are so impregnated with universalism that this treasure is lacking"
This perhaps explains his "S[o] we lack an ancestral religion" in the note. He succumbed to despair, but I don't find it in my heart to accuse him.
8 posted on 05/22/2013 6:01:12 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

When did this happen? I haven’t heard a word.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 6:06:14 PM PDT by skeeter
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Wow. I’m awed by his letter and sacrifice. It’s hard to reconcile the suicide, but the nobility of his purpose is not without note.


10 posted on 05/22/2013 6:14:13 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: annalex

What a stupid thing to do.


11 posted on 05/22/2013 6:17:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: annalex

May he rest in peace. But for some reason the words of George Patton came to mind. Paraphrased it goes something like don’t give your life for your country, make the other son of a bitch gives his life for his country.


12 posted on 05/22/2013 6:19:25 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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I apologize in advance to anyone that my death will cause to suffer first and foremost to my wife, my children and grandchildren, as well as my friends and followers.

Hey Venner, you're a douche-bag!

13 posted on 05/22/2013 6:21:08 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: skeeter
Notre Dame
14 posted on 05/22/2013 6:27:32 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: annalex

Thanks for the ping. What a sad story.


15 posted on 05/22/2013 6:30:21 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: annalex
Many people commit suicide, for all sorts of reasons. Some are insane, some not. This man's particular insanity lies in his apparent thinking that his death will make a difference. It will not. He could have lived for something, but chose to die for nothing. How very French.
16 posted on 05/22/2013 6:42:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: annalex

While I readily agree with the nature of his protest, that is, against the recent introduction of the idea that homosexual relations can be subsumed under the time-honored, recognized, and God-ordained estate of marriage and, also, have sympathy with his concern for the displacement of his nation’s culture by one of an entirely different people and culture, I cannot agree with the nature of his “gesture.” It bespeaks a certain degree of self-absorption, whether his act was done rationally (and, sadly, this appears to be the case, given the note he wrote) or irrationally, which could surely be, in some cases, another thing altogether.

“The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord.” Only He has the right to take that which He has given. How daring is the hand that presumes to take to himself the authority God reserves to Himself or to whom He legitimately and clearly delegates the authority for it? I would say, awfully daring, awfully presumptuous.

Now, Dr. Dominique Venner has placed himself in a position where God alone will be His judge. He has done so, given what we know (and it may not be all), in a manner God Himself does not permit. This makes me uncomfortable for him. However, His eternal fate rests in the hands of God alone. Therefore I will not presume to offer any further comment on it.


17 posted on 05/22/2013 7:24:00 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: annalex

Like the medieval knight Roland, sounding his horn as an alarm before sacrificing himself and being killed by infidels at Roncevalles.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 7:40:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: annalex

Democrats in this country are all in favor of this - after all, dead folks are there most reliable voting block.


19 posted on 05/22/2013 7:51:27 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

yes, suicide is the idea of the devil. This man succumbed. Never, never could this be a good thing. I count his death as caused by the evil agenda of satan to destroy the family


20 posted on 05/22/2013 7:54:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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