[dirtboy]

Well, I think any conservative worth anything in 2008 knew it was a lost cause running at the peak of Bush fatigue.

And I figure good candidates in 2012 stayed away because they knew Romney would fight harder against them than Obama, and events proved that out.

Obama was weak with four years under his belt. He's going have the Dems in worse shape come 2016 than the GOP was under Bush in 2008. THAT is when I think we'll see some better candidates.

[okie01]

[Obama's] going have the Dems in worse shape come 2016 than the GOP was under Bush in 2008. THAT is when I think we'll see some better candidates.

Gawd, I hope so!