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To: JohnPDuncan
I do not support the ATF and believe whatever power they think they have is illegal under the US constitution

I get so sick of people stating this and that is unconstitutional PROVE IT then have the means of force to enforce it. The supreme court is the final arbitrator of those matters. The laws we have on the books are by very definition legal until the supreme's say that one is not. Why is that so hard to understand for some. The only way that can be changed is to remove the sitting govt and replace it with a new one and that takes force of arms. All other opinions or beliefs are just that; not fact nor rule of law. This is the system with in which we live there might come a time where enough people remove the consent of the governed and back that up with the use of arms as force but until that day every thing the fedgov does is by definition legal as long as the highest court who has the authority backed by deadly force to say it is so you dont have to like it you just must obey it, or get a couple million in arms and chose option number 2.

241 posted on 04/20/2013 3:41:26 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: JD_UTDallas

ATF is an unconstitutional federal agency. It does not appear in the US constitution so it should be defunded.

SCOTUS says a lot of things but they’re not the final arbiter. The people and the states are. SCOTUS can go to hell. They say Affordable Healthcare Act is legal and once said slavery was legal. They also claim abortion to be legal.

This is not an institution I have any faith in whatsoever.


245 posted on 04/20/2013 3:46:19 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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