Skip to comments.Troubled South Africa Debates Impact of White Rule
Posted on 04/13/2013 12:29:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Few South Africans have the moral stature of retired archbishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who campaigned against apartheid and now laments the crime and inequality that plague the nation two decades after it cast off racist white rule.
"We can't pretend we have remained at the same heights and that's why I say please, for goodness' sake, recover the spirit that made us great," Tutu said. "Very simply, we are aware we've become one of the most violent societies. It's not what we were, even under apartheid."
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Under Apartheid, South Africa was a country where the vast majority of the population had virtually no legal rights. It was a situation that could not stand and didn't.
That vast majority which had no rights was also uneducated due to the admittedly racist white minority that ran the place. Now, that uneducated majority votes in, year after year, the corrupt ANC which promises a life for all which cannot be delivered.
I've known some South African whites -- delightful people in the main -- but they created this monstrosity. I doubt South Africa will ever find peace.
I don’t want the US to run it, and I don’t want the US to pay for it either. Ever since Coleman Young ran whites out of Detroit-explicitly-blacks have run that city. Now they want YT to send more taxpayers’ hard-earned money to support it, but no YTs to have a say in how that money is spent. Same with Birmingham, New Orleans (the “Chocolate City”), Atlanta, and on. YT is to have no representation, just the taxation. Atlanta even pitched a fit when whites fled to create Sandy Springs, Dunwoody, etc-slapped a lawsuit on the hosts for being so bold as to escape the parasites-thankfully lost it. YT can go die, as long as we leave the fruits of our labor behind. Nope, you (rhetorical you) want all the say, you can pay for it too.
Ah yes....the good 'ole days..
Bahamas not exactly well run. High violent crime rate, low paying unskilled jobs, poverty rampant. It isn’t all like Atlantis Hotel
Barbados is better run...higher standard of living...and is 90% black. Unlike most of black-run British Commonwealth nations....Barbados has not gone full anti-white...and kept many British customs...even called “Little England”
Since you obviously believe that blacks are inferior.
“I dont want the US to run it”
Neither do I. And we don’t have a shameful bloody history of trying to. European countries and China should butt out of Africa and let them run it themselves.
They elected a bunch of socialists and wonder why they’re living in misery?
Don’t laugh: we’re doing the same thing here....
Actually that is my answer to any argument with a lib. Detroit.
It’s an argument better framed as socialist/communist versus true republic. You can easily group socialist nations together a the bottom of the barrel. Culture plays a more prevalent role than color. The divide in race is a product of that culture. Americas problem is best defined as a rebellion of a socialist sub culture that has now ascended and is actively destroying the country outright.
Africa could be China’s tar baby.
I profess no knowledge of Africa, but having read almost every African hunting book, late 1800’s to 1970’s and the author’s observations of Africans, I don’t think we understand them, and “we” includes American blacks, whites, browns, etc.
Europe screwed the pooch early on and consequently they don’t understand us either except how to get our money.
“Freeeeeeeee Nelson Mandela.
Freeeeeeeeee Nelson Mandela.”
While I will be the first to criticise Hellholes like Haiti and Zimbabwe, I nevertheless believe that fair is fair. As someone else already pointed out, the Bahamas qualifies, and for my own example, I will cite Botswana.
While Botswana does indeed still have some problems with poverty (especially in the capital of Gaborone), it is nevertheless considered one of Africa’s rising stars, and has steadily increased its standard of living, and its education rate.
It has also been 100% black-run since its independence (although its first leader Sir Sereste Khama caught a lot of flack from his own people for marrying a white British woman).
Like I said, the place isn’t perfect, but they’re actually attracting foreign investment.
I was really hoping you had a factual response to the question posed earlier (I mean that — not trying to be snippy). I don’t know the history of pre-colonial South Africa, but I suspect that there really wasn’t much of a population there, to begin with, and that white rule created prosperity where there was none. If you have a strong case, please make it. Otherwise, feel-good sentiments, absent historical basis, are hollow and worthless.
I couldn’t have imagined how much I’d love Bermuda be4
we took a cruise there soon a&ter 9-11.
Civilized, $ascinating history available 4 all to learn about, beauti&ul, and quiet. ONE small episode involving the Police restraining a guy out near the inlet where they do the historical recreations o& dunking, the entire time we were there.All the little kids going to school wearing shirts and ties, or pleated skirt and white blouses.
And most o& the older male native Bermudans all seemed to resemble Dexter Gordon, American jazz saxophonist.
Stature? Tutu is a anti-Semitic Marxist douchebag. That’s what his “stature” is with me!
Thanks. You injected a little ACTUAL HISTORY into the discussion.I don’t remember our own post-Revolutionary leaders blaming “the Legacy o$ British Rule” when the new Republic was taking its initial steps into the 19th Century.
It’s not the race that makes a culture bad or evil, but a culture based on race will always be evil.
Yes, one of the four pillars of American Exceptionalism: common law.
While bad now, the English Colonial system really helped most 3rd world countries. The French, Dutch, Italians and Germans didn’t. Why the difference?
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