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Troubled South Africa Debates Impact of White Rule
AP ^ | April 12, 2013 | CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA

Posted on 04/13/2013 12:29:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Few South Africans have the moral stature of retired archbishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who campaigned against apartheid and now laments the crime and inequality that plague the nation two decades after it cast off racist white rule.

"We can't pretend we have remained at the same heights and that's why I say please, for goodness' sake, recover the spirit that made us great," Tutu said. "Very simply, we are aware we've become one of the most violent societies. It's not what we were, even under apartheid."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: desmondtutu; nelsonmandela; southafrica; winniemandela
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

He took away their jobs and gave them a free cell phone and a food stamp card. To me, that just seems wrong.


21 posted on 04/13/2013 12:59:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Without the white guys and their apartheid you black South Africans would have no gold mines. You would be as poor and discombobulated as most African nations. Even with your gold mines you are doing a fine job of turning the clock back 200 years


22 posted on 04/13/2013 1:01:44 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The preferred voter block could break an anvil.


23 posted on 04/13/2013 1:07:57 PM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not just the blacks - to America as a whole!


24 posted on 04/13/2013 1:16:04 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: MinorityRepublican

South Africa has a huge problem in that it has elected the same black liberation party (ANC) ever since apartheid ended. The party that ended apartheid has routinely commanded such a large share of the black vote that they get 60%+ in general elections and can do whatever they want.

This has translated into corruption, nepotism, sex scandals, nutty officials, racial violence and a dramatic decline in economic growth. Yet the same party gets elected over and over, and they know no matter how bad they screw up because the vast majority of blacks will always vote for them.


25 posted on 04/13/2013 1:25:27 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Sounds familiar...


26 posted on 04/13/2013 1:26:47 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
President Jacob Zuma said this week. "The legacy of apartheid runs too deep and too far back for the democratic administration to reverse it in so short a period."

It's the South African version of George Bush's fault.

.. all this remind you of anyone we know? :)

27 posted on 04/13/2013 1:26:51 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Naw, it’s more like the South African version of “de turrible turrible lebacy ob de slabery”


28 posted on 04/13/2013 1:29:03 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: RightOnline
Show me one nation ruled by blacks that is well-run and prosperous. Just......one. I won’t even go into the violence aspect.

How did this nation start again?
29 posted on 04/13/2013 1:30:25 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

30 posted on 04/13/2013 1:31:56 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RightOnline

Bermuda, one of the highest GDPs in the world, not only has had black premiers in the past (a white one now) but has had a black woman premier in the past. It is exceptionally well run and has been for 40 years.


31 posted on 04/13/2013 1:36:23 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: RightOnline

And it is relatively violence free. Dr. Walter Williams frequently contrasts Bermuda with Jamaica.


32 posted on 04/13/2013 1:37:18 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: ejonesie22
Nation, hell name a city.

Detroit!



Oh, never mind...


33 posted on 04/13/2013 1:38:01 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: RightOnline

I would also say Ivory Coast has been a model country for its first 20 years of independence and flourished. It fell into some difficult economic times after 1980, but has recovered some. Relative low level of violence there.


34 posted on 04/13/2013 1:39:08 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: RightOnline

Why you racist, reactionary, bitter clinger, you should be ashamed of yourself.


35 posted on 04/13/2013 1:40:11 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: LS

Bermuda is a British colony.


36 posted on 04/13/2013 1:40:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It is run by the government there, though. I don’t think the British colonial office has anything to do with it any more.


37 posted on 04/13/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah, just double checked. It is run by the governor, has its own constitution, and is pretty much independent.


38 posted on 04/13/2013 1:43:06 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

Bermuda....a Commonwealth country with British rule of law. That’s their saving grace.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 1:45:30 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Desmond Tutu is a LIBERAL NUTCASE who promptly moved to the US from South Africa after he played a key role in turning that nation into a Hell hole.


40 posted on 04/13/2013 1:47:18 PM PDT by The Duke (We don't rent pigs, but apparently we *do* ELECT them.)
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