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Troubled South Africa Debates Impact of White Rule
AP ^ | April 12, 2013 | CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA

Posted on 04/13/2013 12:29:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Few South Africans have the moral stature of retired archbishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who campaigned against apartheid and now laments the crime and inequality that plague the nation two decades after it cast off racist white rule.

"We can't pretend we have remained at the same heights and that's why I say please, for goodness' sake, recover the spirit that made us great," Tutu said. "Very simply, we are aware we've become one of the most violent societies. It's not what we were, even under apartheid."

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KEYWORDS: desmondtutu; nelsonmandela; southafrica; winniemandela
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To: MinorityRepublican

Did he just say that us eviiill Whites are the stabilizing factor that reduces wanton violence and killing?

101 posted on 04/14/2013 3:43:05 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

And blaming it on us.

102 posted on 04/14/2013 4:27:46 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: RightOnline

I’ve noticed a lot of freepers mentioning the Bahamas, take the tourist money away and see what happens. On the flip side we have Baltimore, Detroit,Philly, the list goes on and on. We all know who runs these cities. I’m not questioning the intellect, morals or values of black people, just there political maturity, which is obviously lacking.

103 posted on 04/14/2013 4:30:46 AM PDT by saturn
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To: wardaddy
I first thought that too, but Bermuda and Anguilla aren't countries. They are "British overseas territories" with British law, but not British taxes.

Bermuda's population is 64,268 and Anguila's is 13,600.

The tax-haven aspect is probably critical to the islands' prosperity, and I don't see how you could scale that up enough to help. Just Detroit's population is 706,585.

104 posted on 04/14/2013 4:36:23 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: RightOnline

Nation of Islam.

105 posted on 04/14/2013 4:38:27 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: MinorityRepublican
Tutu is an absolute ass! Seems like this twerp was on the local news out of Boston at least once a month speaking to one cocktail party after another while denouncing white rule as disastrous for SA.

Now SA is the DetroitAtlantaWashingtonDCPhiladelphia black-led debacle he wished for and got.

106 posted on 04/14/2013 4:44:53 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Blue Ink

Ain’t gonna happen. You also forgot USSR/or whatever they attest to, these days.

107 posted on 04/14/2013 4:47:02 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: MinorityRepublican

In other words, they dumped one group of rulers without making sure the next was civilized.

Kind of funny.

108 posted on 04/14/2013 4:47:17 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: montag813

He is full-on KGB, mythos.

109 posted on 04/14/2013 4:50:21 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: dfwgator; Bobalu

Absolutely brilliant comments and very well phrased.

It is not about:

Black Culture
White Culture
Hispanic Culture
ETc. Culture

It is about a moral culture and the sooner we take back that language around culture the sooner we can mend the divides that split people apart.

110 posted on 04/14/2013 4:56:27 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Afrikaners WERE a legitimate white “tribe”. Very few blacks were there originally.

Their mistake was importing cheap black labor from further north from other countries. When those populations overwhelmed the white populations. The black populations took over, albeit through the communist ANC and commie mandala.

Had the whites did their own labor, There would still be an Afrikaner run captitalist South Africa.

111 posted on 04/14/2013 5:04:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Sounds familiar doesn’t it...

112 posted on 04/14/2013 5:20:29 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Imagine you are a member of an ethnic group that is subjugated and oppressed.

Imagine that, partly because of YOUR activism, and YOUR oratory, that yoke of oppression is cast aside.

Imagine that the very person you supported in your activism and your oratory becomes the President of your Nation.

Now, imagine all that! WHERE do you decide to make your home?

(The Last time I heard, Desmond Tutu lived in an affluent suburb of Atlanta, GA.)

113 posted on 04/14/2013 5:40:40 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Why doesn’t some politician have the stones to call these agitators on their obvious BS? Just tell them the truth — people create their communities.

We do not have a politician who can control the language yet. We discuss here all the time on FR. How the progressive left controls the language and even the meaning of words are redefined in the twinkling of an eye. Rush Limbaugh himself eluded to this just last week in one of his monologues.

Now, I may get massively attacked for using this example...but it is the only one I can connect with at the present time. I do a lot of dog training using the clicker training method. When we get a problem dog that is not responding appropriately to the clicker, commands, and behavioral shaping cues due to previous training mistakes ...we have to change the word to get the response we need. So if a dog is not responding to say the command & cue to "leave it." We change to another word with similar meaning, "off." We could use any other word...but the dog will understand that, that particular cue, click equals reward.

In training though, the improper use of the cue and reward will extinguish behavior. Clicking and cuing without praise or reward will have the animal stop performing the behavior. This is why democrats constantly change and evolve the meaning of phrases and words. So in order for a politician to speak up and change peoples minds, to have an effect, which we don't have right now is the reward for the undesired behavior needs to stop and we need to redefine the command and present a higher value reward. What is that higher value reward will tend to vary from dog to dog. Chicken, lamb-lung, cheese...? Or in the case of breaking down the race mindset should we change to rewards like equality vs. liberal fairness, liberty vs. democracy...?

So the race-baiters say blame whitey, the black people blame whitey, and the government rewards them for doing so with assorted incentives which reinforces the negative behaviors. And this is true whether you are talking about blacks, unions, your kids or the employee who sits on their butts all day. As long as they are rewarded for bad behavior, it will continue and nothing that anyone says can change that behavior.

It is very sad that when we talk about our liberal counterparts acting like the democrats lap dogs...well in many ways they truly are like well trained dogs and the democrats 'own' them. So ...we are at a perfect juncture in that the policies of the race-baiters are failing. One would think that this unrewarded or less than desired reward would naturally extinguish these bad choices. But it isn't and in my humblest of opinions is because WE have not changed the command from 'leave it' to 'off.'

114 posted on 04/14/2013 5:53:22 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

LOL! The Queen of Sheba was very “Friendly” to Israel!


115 posted on 04/14/2013 6:04:05 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: BfloGuy
the vast majority of the population had virtually no legal rights.

Thanks for injecting some actual facts into this thread, about SA under aparthied.

116 posted on 04/14/2013 6:30:58 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: Blue Ink
I don't subscribe to the philosophy that one race of people should subjugate and strip another race of people of basic human rights (we conservatives call them "God given rights"), because the second race of people are not culturally, economically, or militarily strong. Those people have a right to improve or fail.

I also don't support dumping large amounts of money as aid in countries that are poorly run, without conditions attached.

117 posted on 04/14/2013 6:46:03 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: RightOnline

Ethiopia, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, The Bahamas plus just about all the countries on the West African coast (Atlantic).

118 posted on 04/14/2013 7:01:33 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: ForAmerica

How did this nation start again?

Christians fleeing oppression.

The problem is not racial, as we are all created equal, but like someone said upscreen, cultural. And I belisve that culture is largely determined by what is considered sin. Take away Christianity, and its self control imperative, and all you have is law, which is based on power. Power alone corrupts and produces unrighteousness and all manner of injustices. More law equals more fail.

We are going down that wide road also, desperately making more laws to restrain the desperatly wicked heart of man. It’s doomed to failure because the people themselves are mostly unrepentant.

119 posted on 04/14/2013 7:02:31 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: GeronL

I’m sick of this subject when you try and tell the lunatics in la la land how South Africa used to be a great country with money, doung well etc and it all went to crap after many whites left the country due to blacks taking over and using racism to force whites out.

Many whites from there moved to New Zealand and Australia and yet if America had been clued in then they could have got some very hard working farmers , instead the left classes all of whites in Africa as racist and that;s if they actually know Africans can be white

120 posted on 04/14/2013 7:08:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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