Skip to comments.Troubled South Africa Debates Impact of White Rule
Posted on 04/13/2013 12:29:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Few South Africans have the moral stature of retired archbishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who campaigned against apartheid and now laments the crime and inequality that plague the nation two decades after it cast off racist white rule.
"We can't pretend we have remained at the same heights and that's why I say please, for goodness' sake, recover the spirit that made us great," Tutu said. "Very simply, we are aware we've become one of the most violent societies. It's not what we were, even under apartheid."
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Did he just say that us eviiill Whites are the stabilizing factor that reduces wanton violence and killing?
And blaming it on us.
I’ve noticed a lot of freepers mentioning the Bahamas, take the tourist money away and see what happens. On the flip side we have Baltimore, Detroit,Philly, the list goes on and on. We all know who runs these cities. I’m not questioning the intellect, morals or values of black people, just there political maturity, which is obviously lacking.
Bermuda's population is 64,268 and Anguila's is 13,600.
The tax-haven aspect is probably critical to the islands' prosperity, and I don't see how you could scale that up enough to help. Just Detroit's population is 706,585.
Nation of Islam.
Now SA is the DetroitAtlantaWashingtonDCPhiladelphia black-led debacle he wished for and got.
Ain’t gonna happen. You also forgot USSR/or whatever they attest to, these days.
In other words, they dumped one group of rulers without making sure the next was civilized.
Kind of funny.
He is full-on KGB, mythos.
Absolutely brilliant comments and very well phrased.
It is not about:
It is about a moral culture and the sooner we take back that language around culture the sooner we can mend the divides that split people apart.
The Afrikaners WERE a legitimate white “tribe”. Very few blacks were there originally.
Their mistake was importing cheap black labor from further north from other countries. When those populations overwhelmed the white populations. The black populations took over, albeit through the communist ANC and commie mandala.
Had the whites did their own labor, There would still be an Afrikaner run captitalist South Africa.
Sounds familiar doesn’t it...
Imagine you are a member of an ethnic group that is subjugated and oppressed.
Imagine that, partly because of YOUR activism, and YOUR oratory, that yoke of oppression is cast aside.
Imagine that the very person you supported in your activism and your oratory becomes the President of your Nation.
Now, imagine all that! WHERE do you decide to make your home?
(The Last time I heard, Desmond Tutu lived in an affluent suburb of Atlanta, GA.)
We do not have a politician who can control the language yet. We discuss here all the time on FR. How the progressive left controls the language and even the meaning of words are redefined in the twinkling of an eye. Rush Limbaugh himself eluded to this just last week in one of his monologues.
Now, I may get massively attacked for using this example...but it is the only one I can connect with at the present time. I do a lot of dog training using the clicker training method. When we get a problem dog that is not responding appropriately to the clicker, commands, and behavioral shaping cues due to previous training mistakes ...we have to change the word to get the response we need. So if a dog is not responding to say the command & cue to "leave it." We change to another word with similar meaning, "off." We could use any other word...but the dog will understand that, that particular cue, click equals reward.
In training though, the improper use of the cue and reward will extinguish behavior. Clicking and cuing without praise or reward will have the animal stop performing the behavior. This is why democrats constantly change and evolve the meaning of phrases and words. So in order for a politician to speak up and change peoples minds, to have an effect, which we don't have right now is the reward for the undesired behavior needs to stop and we need to redefine the command and present a higher value reward. What is that higher value reward will tend to vary from dog to dog. Chicken, lamb-lung, cheese...? Or in the case of breaking down the race mindset should we change to rewards like equality vs. liberal fairness, liberty vs. democracy...?
So the race-baiters say blame whitey, the black people blame whitey, and the government rewards them for doing so with assorted incentives which reinforces the negative behaviors. And this is true whether you are talking about blacks, unions, your kids or the employee who sits on their butts all day. As long as they are rewarded for bad behavior, it will continue and nothing that anyone says can change that behavior.
It is very sad that when we talk about our liberal counterparts acting like the democrats lap dogs...well in many ways they truly are like well trained dogs and the democrats 'own' them. So ...we are at a perfect juncture in that the policies of the race-baiters are failing. One would think that this unrewarded or less than desired reward would naturally extinguish these bad choices. But it isn't and in my humblest of opinions is because WE have not changed the command from 'leave it' to 'off.'
LOL! The Queen of Sheba was very “Friendly” to Israel!
Thanks for injecting some actual facts into this thread, about SA under aparthied.
I also don't support dumping large amounts of money as aid in countries that are poorly run, without conditions attached.
Ethiopia, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, The Bahamas plus just about all the countries on the West African coast (Atlantic).
How did this nation start again?
Christians fleeing oppression.
The problem is not racial, as we are all created equal, but like someone said upscreen, cultural. And I belisve that culture is largely determined by what is considered sin. Take away Christianity, and its self control imperative, and all you have is law, which is based on power. Power alone corrupts and produces unrighteousness and all manner of injustices. More law equals more fail.
We are going down that wide road also, desperately making more laws to restrain the desperatly wicked heart of man. It’s doomed to failure because the people themselves are mostly unrepentant.
I’m sick of this subject when you try and tell the lunatics in la la land how South Africa used to be a great country with money, doung well etc and it all went to crap after many whites left the country due to blacks taking over and using racism to force whites out.
Many whites from there moved to New Zealand and Australia and yet if America had been clued in then they could have got some very hard working farmers , instead the left classes all of whites in Africa as racist and that;s if they actually know Africans can be white
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