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Rove Fires Back after Palin’s Blistering CPAC Speech
Newsmax.com ^ | March 17, 2013 | Kenneth Hanne

Posted on 03/17/2013 7:25:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Karl Rove sought to turn the tables Sunday on Sarah Palin, jabbing her for stepping down early as Alaska governor, a day after she blistered the GOP consultant in a speech at CPAC.

Palin launched a broadside against the GOP establishment on Saturday at the gathering of conservatives, but directed her sharpest aim at Rove, reports Huffington Post.

“If these experts who keep losing elections and keep getting rehired and getting millions — if they feel that strong about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck-up or stay in the truck,” Palin told CPAC Saturday, according to the publication. “The Architect can head on back to the great Lone Star State and put their name on some ballot — though for their sakes, I hope they give themselves a discount on their consulting services.”

Rove, who was nicknamed “The Architect” by President George W. Bush, pushed back against Palin on Fox News, said the publication.

“I appreciate encouragement I ought to go home to Texas and run for office and, it would be news if I did to have her support. But I don’t think I’m a good candidate — a kind of balding, fat guy,” Rove said, as reported by Huffington Post. “And second, if I did run for office and win, I would serve out my term and I wouldn't leave office midterm.”

Palin resigned as governor in 2009, halfway through her first term in office.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cpac; cpac2013; establishment; gop; gopcivilwar; gope; huffingtonpost; karlrove; republicans; rinos; sarahpalin; talkshows; thearchitect; thesnarkitect; tokyorove
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The PDSers are on patrol big time!


61 posted on 03/17/2013 8:57:34 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Hitting LIKE button numerous times....


62 posted on 03/17/2013 8:58:02 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: vette6387

Rove does have a point about Palin’s abandoning her office. I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.


You... must have a lot of money.. Sarah didn’t...
She was 500K+ in debt to lawyers.. and the attacks were continuing.. not only attacks on her personally but attacks on her children as well..

So many attacks she spent much of her time defending against them..
Makes it hard to deal with the fascist oil companys(in Alaska) when you are so busy with other things..
Which was the point of the attacks..

You are not too smart are you.?... easy to find this information..
If you have a mind to do it..

Sarah pulled the rug out from underneath the bastards..
Genius actually... her Lt. Governor was also a capable and good guy.. who took over..

She was also an intelligent and honest girl from her youth..
I personally know people that knew her then and now..
They all have nothing but good things to say about her.. as a person..


63 posted on 03/17/2013 9:00:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Deathtomarxists

>> If someone has a different opinion shut up and let them speak their mind.

That doesn’t make sense in sequential dialog.


64 posted on 03/17/2013 9:05:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We know Sarah's weapon of choice, here's all that non-magnificent bastard Rove has to fire back with:


65 posted on 03/17/2013 9:05:22 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: ansel12

“Alaska and Hawaii are not the places where a sitting Governor can make and maintain a prominent national presence,,,”

True, and having been to Hawall last year, it’s clear that it’s a Marxist crap hole, but I have always been of the opinion that Alaska was not like that, seeing as how it has has numerous Republican officeholders. I guess that view was tempered somewhat when I saw what the “republicans” did to keep Lisa Murkowski in office.
So if you are saying that Sarah’s move was predicated on the premise that she could not maintain “national status” makes some sense. But her decision, for whatever reason, to resign mid-term is not a plus for her going forward.


66 posted on 03/17/2013 9:07:21 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Blue Highway

I’m not sure I understand the question as it is worded, but let me clarify my statement.

It seems to me that the objective of the GOP is to fail. I believe they define their own success as failure. I believe that the GOP’s aim is to not pass any sort of conservative agenda. I believe that the aim of the GOP is to fail to such a degree that the result is more democrats are elected to replace them.

They are simply place holders for when the public gets angry with democrats, and while they hold those places they ensure that nothing changes and that the government agenda advances.

If one views that goals of the GOP as such, then Rince Preibus, having just orchestrated one the the greatest GOP defeats in history in races against a president who is not loved by many, is the perfect man to chair the GOP again to ensure further failure.

I do believe that these two parties are playing a shell game, and under every shell is tyranny. That is the aim of our government, and it does not matter what letter a politican has after his or her name.

Their actions speak so much louder than their words.

I do not include Rand Paul in Ted Cruz in this description, they seem to be rogue. Either they have not or can not be brought into the fold, so they are going to have to be delt with. They will find that both the democrats and republicans are their enemies, just as they both are our enemies.


67 posted on 03/17/2013 9:10:36 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“If you think that McLame, Bush and/or Dole are conservatives, you don’t know what it means.”

Can you read? I guess my “shorthand” doesn’t make it. With the exception of Ronald Reagan, the GOPe has managed to give us “country club” republican candidates my entire life! Just look at the list! Eisenhower: like Obama, all he did was play golf. Nixon: He was a crook, he was our crook! GHWB: Worthless, don’t know how Reagan was “persuaded” to take him. W: made the “war on terror” the sole issue of his 8 years! Was the reason we got Obama ( well, that and McLame). RATs made an issue of his intellect, and to some degree, they were right.
Funny, Republicans chide the RATs for trying the same policies over and over. How is the GOP any different. A McLame presidency would have been like boiling a frog. He would have done much of what FUBO has done, but the GOP would have gone completely along with it rather than just half way!


68 posted on 03/17/2013 9:19:14 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

You didn’t understand the post, read it again, it is the isolation and distance that would enable the national media to destroy a hated conservative figure thousands of miles away and tied to a governor’s seat in Alaska or Hawaii.

Palin was under the most vicious attack from the media that we have ever seen, and also from the democrat party and the GOPe,and they were all down here in the lower 48.

You mentioned Reagan, well he didn’t face that as governor, and if he had, there is hardly a better place to fight the media from than as Governor of California, you are just as well located as the media in that situation.


69 posted on 03/17/2013 9:20:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: vette6387
Not that anyone needs to "substantiate ....enough to satisfy you" but I will mention it again here.

Sarah has written extensively about it in her books but there were so many lawsuits filed against her as Governor, mostly by outside agitators but some Alaskan libs as a way to shut her up and shut her down.

That was not the only problem but was the emphasis, as she put it, that serving as Governor, a mere state employee, the State of Alaska was forced to hire legal defense for each and every trivial thing - and they were all ultimately thrown out of court but not before they were adjudicated (meaning going through the motions, hearings, evidence taking, depositions taking and finally briefs filing) that it was beginning to look as though these lawsuits could potentially bankrupt the State of Alaska, a state that had been heavily in debt, which was why Sarah ran for Governor in the first place.

Her work was not only to get the state out of debt but to get a surplus for when hard times hit.

Sarah was proud of her state no longer being in debt an she was also proud to being reelected by an 80% approval rating, try that on Obama!

She made the personally painful decision to step away as Governor so that the state was no longer responsible to defend her as an state employee, if she weren't Governor, thus no money would be spent because she became a target for every kook.

She also needed a job paying more than Governor paid to help pay her family's portion of some of these trivial lawsuits, to supplant the income she and Todd's fishing business could afford, without bankrupting their family.

She was able to do just that by writing and speaking engagements but only after leaving as Governor.

Lastly, some of the first things that Sarah did upon becoming Governor, was to sell the state plane that cost the state thousands and had been for the use for the Governor only. She said that the state couldn't afford it, afford to fly one person around to speaking engagements within the state.

Secondly, she let the full time chefs go telling the people that her family had been preparing their own meals and could simply continue to do so but hire extra help when official state dinners would be served but that she wouldn't keep a full time staff devoted to preparing and serving to her and her family - that they were no better than the other citizens in her state and the citizens didn't need to be taxed to have someone cook for just her and her family.

Sarah's sense of pride of accomplishment would have been tarnished had she stayed and fought on as Governor, knowing all the while, the very people she had desired to serve were having their taxes squandered to fight frivolous lawsuits against her merely because she had decided to run for the position of Vice President.

I, for one, admire anyone who steps away from a position when they realize that they are a target for every kook to sue, only to make the taxpayers defend them against every kook's lawsuit.

Hope this settles some of your questions about the real reasons for Sarah's decision to leave as Governor of Alaska.

70 posted on 03/17/2013 9:21:45 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Palin is a political genius, and I wonder if she is in the process of taking out Rove, or at least knee capping him?


71 posted on 03/17/2013 9:24:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: zerosix

So in today’s political world, you can just sue an officeholder to death and get away with it, is that it? You don’t think that this goes on with others but is dealt with behind closed doors? If this was so effective at getting Sarah out of office, why isn’t there more evidence that it works with other in similar circumstances?


72 posted on 03/17/2013 9:28:53 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

If you understood my post, then you would not be telling me that there are other rep. politicians in Alaska, the politics of Alaska or Hawaii had nothing to do with my post.

My point was the distance from the national media and political center and the three entities trying to destroy her, the media, the GOP, and the democrat party.


73 posted on 03/17/2013 9:30:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

An interesting little tidbit about quitters. Andrew Jackson resigned (quit) the U S Senate, not once, but twice. The first resignation after only one year in office. As a two time quitter, he ran for and was elected president for two terms. I guess he did not get the memo about being washed up for quitting before his term was up.


74 posted on 03/17/2013 9:32:07 PM PDT by etcb
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To: zerosix

“Lastly, some of the first things that Sarah did upon becoming Governor”

None of those things you list has anything to do with the discussion. I applauded Sarah for her approach to governing. (BTW Ronald Reagan sold Jerry the Fairy’s father’s plane when he became governor. He moved into a home that was provided by some of his donors rather than spend money rehabbing the crappy old governor’s mansion in downtown Sacto.) Now the precedent is set, if you want to try and run the Governor of Alaska out of office, you FOIA him or her to death and force the state to pick up the legal tab. Wonder how the founding of the USA would have gone if the Founding Fathers had yielded to this kind of blackmail?


75 posted on 03/17/2013 9:38:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: mazda77; vette6387
""I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step."

So, then, you didn't accept her speech or the reasons she gave for the resignation? She didn't "quit" halfway through her "term." She resigned for the good of the State during her second term. Please be polite enough to find the truth about this instead of passing on liberal talking points.

76 posted on 03/17/2013 9:41:12 PM PDT by redhead (NO GROUND TO THE DEVIL! Use Weaponized Prayer)
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To: vette6387
You evidently aren't familiar with state government nor how to sue a government official of your state.

Yes it is possible to have combined effort for many people to engage in filing trivial lawsuits.....and get away with it.

Even getting suits thrown out of court requires.....paying lawyers, duh! Of course, it was done behind "closed doors," until Sarah realized it was irresponsible for her to force the state to continue footing the bill for her as they were forced by law to do!

From the sound of your response, it's not the so called heresay as to why Palin that bothers you but rather Palin herself and you are entitled to your preferences.

Don't bother to pretend to be baffled by the "heresay," then insult me when I give you verbatim her reasons from her own words.

Lastly, believe her or not, it's your choice and I'm going to bet you don't whether or not you heard her explain her reasoning.

Joining the Palin haters works for you, so be it.

77 posted on 03/17/2013 9:41:59 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: vette6387
So in today’s political world, you can just sue an officeholder to death and get away with it, is that it?

This has been mentioned several times, but not as a direct response to your repeated assertion. The reason the lawsuit barrage worked was because of the way Alaskan law governed the lawsuits and how the governor could and could not respond. Other states may have different laws on how their governor can deal with this, or if the lawsuits can even be brought. Also, Alaska has now CHANGED the law to prevent this from being done again.

78 posted on 03/17/2013 9:43:29 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: vette6387
So in today’s political world, you can just sue an officeholder to death and get away with it, is that it?

This has been mentioned several times, but not as a direct response to your repeated assertion. The reason the lawsuit barrage worked was because of the way Alaskan law governed the lawsuits and how the governor could and could not respond. Other states may have different laws on how their governor can deal with this, or if the lawsuits can even be brought. Also, Alaska has now CHANGED the law to prevent this from being done again.

79 posted on 03/17/2013 9:43:30 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: fortheDeclaration
She caved into extortion.

You would've preferred bankruptcy, of course.

80 posted on 03/17/2013 9:44:05 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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