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To: neverdem

Excellent article. I wonder if Dorner was on SSRI medication.


2 posted on 03/05/2013 1:14:07 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Dorner was tripped, why ever- how ever, no answers. Yet, how about LAPD, that were shooting at non-Dorners. Just askin’; were the shooter’s scripts- high&tight. Had to be some thing wrong, right? Maybe, no.


3 posted on 03/05/2013 1:27:11 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Smokin' Joe

I spoke with a retired SrChief who served with him in the Gulf outside Bahrain (by now it’s hearsay). He has a reputation then. Went something along the lines of the Sr Chief and Dorner assigned to board vessels passing through the Straits, inspect their papers to verify their cargo and destination, and be on their way. SrChief handled the first few inspections showing Dorner how they had been doing it.

SrChief to 1stOfficer OOD of ship: Thanks for letting us aboard. We recognize you don;t have toshow us your papers, but there are easy and hard ways of doing things. If you show us your papers, I radio back to my command we’ve seen them, we wave you on, and we go back to our command and you continue on your way. If you don’t, then I have to report back I haven’t seen the papers and I don’t really know what they do then.

In most cases the ship’s OOD/Captain voluntarily shared the info, no problems. Sometimes a baving face gesture of 1stMate saying no, but Captain intervening would occur, but same result, they waved them through.

Now Dorner wanted to try on the next ship:
Dorner to OOD: Look! We can do this the hard way or the easy way. The Hard way, I kill you and everybody on deck, then look at your papers,..the easy way you show me your papers....

SrChief to Dorner as they are departing the ship,....OK, the kill everybody thing went just a little over the top....

Supposedly Dorner did well at desk duties as many performed in the Gulf War Zone after they got over the “Gee, you mean now I can really use this thing when I see fit???” mentality when they were armed and on patrol. Chalk it up to insufficient training for explicit and general mission orders.


5 posted on 03/05/2013 1:44:51 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

To my recollection, we have also not yet heard on the toxicology report on the Newtown Shooter and what ‘meds’ he was on.


7 posted on 03/05/2013 2:54:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Smokin' Joe

And I wonder when he decided to go OFF his meds. When people on these meds decide they’re all better, they sometimes decide to just quit taking them. THAT’S when they “go crazy”. They don’t realize that one has to gradually lower the dosage, with a doctor’s help, or they will be in worse shape than before the meds.

Tox reports should not only include what meds were found in the body, they should also include the drugs the decedent were prescribed BUT WERE NOT FOUND IN THEIR SYSTEM.


11 posted on 03/05/2013 3:33:08 AM PST by blu
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