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Dorner Manhunt Reveals Police Contempt for Public Safety
Reason ^ | February 15, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 02/22/2013 3:37:46 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Now, law enforcement drones...
What could go wrong?

drone kill chris dorner lapd mistake find obama

61 posted on 02/22/2013 5:17:15 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: donna
I think I'd be hysterical and afraid of the public in LA too. Here is a story from the next township over from me where the cop showed far more restraint than I could have and he would have been justified in shooting the perp.

Second teen arraigned on felony charges after Napoleon Township police officer stopped alleged armed robbery

While checking on the vehicle about 10:20 p.m., he heard a commotion and went to a nearby mobile home. There, he found Ross in the doorway, pointing a shotgun at Weaver, who was on the floor and appeared to have a head injury, Curry reported in a statement.

The officer drew his weapon and ordered Ross to put down the gun. After some hesitation, Ross complied, township police reported.


In the township to the south of me two cops were attacked by some moron with a chainsaw.last summer. Another easy to justify shooting but they didn't.

The fantasy that some have of cops rampaging through the streets is idiotic and childish. If people want better cops, move to a low crime area where cops don't have to deal with scum on a daily basis or change the society.

My little town doesn't even have a police department anymore because we couldn't justify paying for them. Now we have a sheriff's deputy roll through about once a month.
62 posted on 02/22/2013 5:17:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem
dorner newspaper shoot pickup cops lapd

lapd wrong pickup shoot ladies truck

63 posted on 02/22/2013 5:18:28 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: ansel12

I’ve lived in Ohio all my life. To what historical event are you referring?


64 posted on 02/22/2013 5:18:37 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: neverdem

As a staunch conservative in law school I hated the notion of defense attorneys, the exclusionary rule and the like because I thought they were about bleeding heart liberals trying to protect criminals. Years later I realized that government is the enemy and these are the only protections we have against out-of-control, oppressive government. Our founders understood the danger of tyrannical government and that’s why these protections appear in the Constitution. Check out the recent articles about the female Utah cop - cop of the year in 2007 because of her record number of DWI arrests - who has now been fired and may be prosecuted because she was routinely arresting folks who had no signs whatsoever of alcohol consumption. She wanted the promotions and recognition such behavior brought her. Even worse, her whole department was giving her the “atta girl” for all of her fine work. This kind of attitude by government and law enforcement is now the rule rather than the exception.


65 posted on 02/22/2013 5:21:37 PM PST by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: jiggyboy
http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_22600650/officer-who-shot-at-innocent-redondo-beach-mans

Thanks for posting. That's the most comprehensive description of those events I've seen.

66 posted on 02/22/2013 5:21:47 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: driftdiver
. The subject at hand is the fact that cops shot innocent people simply because they were in the general area

WTF does "At random? No" mean to you? Are you retarded? Try to keep up.

67 posted on 02/22/2013 5:26:46 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: cripplecreek

I always think about the cop who arrested the man who ate a victim’s face off! Some situations are just plain horrifying. I think of how much courage it takes to do the job.


68 posted on 02/22/2013 5:31:02 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: goodwithagun

I probably threw you off track by mistakenly using “Ohio State”, I meant the Kent State shootings.


69 posted on 02/22/2013 5:31:42 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: null and void
So shoot me.

From what you've posted that I've read, it would be a waste of ammo.

70 posted on 02/22/2013 5:32:00 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: null and void

I’d be very interested in how Newspaper Ladies’ lawsuit goes. The big question I want to see answered is whether you really need to know what you’re shooting at before you empty your gun. Even a self-defense argument shouldn’t excuse this kind of negligence — you know it wouldn’t for us “civilians”.


71 posted on 02/22/2013 5:34:22 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: KevinB
Even worse, her whole department was giving her the “atta girl” for all of her fine work

Is that so? Was't it a UHP sergeant who reported her?

72 posted on 02/22/2013 5:36:04 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: donna

One of my neighbors is a former Detroit cop who was transferred here after being targeted by gangs. Not a year after his transfer we closed our police department and he gave up being a cop rather than going to another larger city where he would spend every day worrying about his family.

He says its a whole different world. In Detroit he was taught to consider everyone to be armed and a potential threat. Here he found that everyone is armed and no one is a threat.


73 posted on 02/22/2013 5:37:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ansel12

The Kent State issue did not involve the police. It was the National Guard. Also, new photos have been leaked through the drive-by media that show the protesters were advancing on the Guard, which is why they fired. It is very sad that innocent students, and not the POS protesters who didn’t even attend school there, lost their lives.


74 posted on 02/22/2013 5:37:46 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Yes I assumed that you knew all that when I posted post 13, evidently I took too much for granted.


75 posted on 02/22/2013 5:40:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Alaska Wolf; driftdiver
driftdiver ~ The subject at hand is the fact that cops shot innocent people simply because they were in the general area

Alaska Wolf ~ WTF does "At random? No" mean to you? Are you retarded? Try to keep up.

Silly driftdiver, it wasn't "at random" they were only targeting people in pickup trucks.

Not any random citizens, select citizens.

76 posted on 02/22/2013 5:46:57 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: goodwithagun

There is also a fair amount of evidence that a shot was fired by one of the weather underground types (SDS I think) with an intent to draw fire from the NG in hopes of starting the revolution.

I believe there have also been some admissions of intentionally spurring the Chicago rioting in hopes of starting the great marxist revolution.


77 posted on 02/22/2013 5:48:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Kent State was just about the last college riot.

It seems the National Guard didn't shoot the students right in front of them, they shot ones at the back of the scrum, where the agitators were working...

78 posted on 02/22/2013 5:55:37 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: null and void; driftdiver
Silly driftdiver, it wasn't "at random"

Try to keep up. You're really pathetic. LOL!

So its ok for the cops to shoot people at random as long as its dark?

47 posted on Friday, February 22, 2013 3:48:48 PM by driftdiver

79 posted on 02/22/2013 5:56:22 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: goodwithagun
New light shed on Kent State killings
80 posted on 02/22/2013 5:56:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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