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To: BillyBoy

Right when I think I understand what you are trying to say, I lose it again.

You believe your state house, senate, and governor are corrupt and that your rural vote is diluted by your state’s urban voters.

You believe the states south, north, east, and west of you probably have the same situation.

So, you believe, since your state politics are corrupted,
that you should elect your U.S. senator directly.

But what I don’t understand is this:
How do you think that the direct election of your U.S senators changes the equation?

The people who elected your “corrupt” state government are the same people who will elect your U. S. senator.

Your vote is still diluted, the same as before, and you have gained nothing.

And yet, there you are, calling for “more democracy”?
You just don’t make any damned sense.


60 posted on 02/08/2013 6:48:09 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; BillyBoy

Billy does make sense if you bother to step back from your single-minded agenda and listen. To suggest to someone (a Conservative) from Illinois about investing their perennially corrupt state legislature led by Boss Mike Madigan to have unfettered control over their two Senators is viscerally offensive. Dropping f-bombs is not going to make your case, either.


65 posted on 02/08/2013 7:10:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Repeal The 17th
>> So, you believe, since your state politics are corrupted, that you should elect your U.S. senator directly. But what I don’t understand is this: How do you think that the direct election of your U.S senators changes the equation? The people who elected your “corrupt” state government are the same people who will elect your U. S. senator. <<

Have you ever heard of gerrymandering? You can gerrymander state legislature districts so the vote is dilluted. Chicago controls half of the state legislative seats. You CANNOT gerrymander a state (at least, state politicianas haven't done so yet, don't given then any ideas or they might start redrawing New Hampshire to take it some liberal Vermont counties) Chicago accounts for 25% of the popular vote, compared to 50% of the legislature seats.

Hence, there are many states where Democrats have a veto proof majority in the state house, yet the citizens can and DO elect decent conservative Republican Senators statewide.

66 posted on 02/08/2013 7:10:51 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Billy Boy is a Yankee from Yankee land. So what he thinks he projects out over to everyone else. See they “won” the war to destroy the republic so they are right about everything.


79 posted on 02/09/2013 3:14:05 AM PST by central_va (TH)
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