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To: discostu
The fact is in the 60s and 70s (and really in the 50s but we didn’t find out about that stuff until much later) America went on a tact that was at the very least sneaky and dishonest, and you could make an argument that it was down right evil. And it’s never really recovered, we’re always doing something sleazy to somebody, we keep getting in unpopular ill defined wars, aligning ourselves with seriously bad people, and electing tax and spend liberals. Anybody that doesn’t think that a large portion of our government has a strong evil bent is really not paying attention. Americans are still by and large good people, our government is scum.

He's not talking about people who hate the government. He's talking about people who hate the country and regard it as having been conceived in sin and that it never should have existed in the first place.

This is a strange state of mind. Even the Communists extolled patriotism towards "the socialist motherland." Why should the United States be considered the most evil country in history, and by its own elites?

13 posted on 02/06/2013 1:07:48 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It’s the same thing. People tend to think of countries as monoliths, they don’t separate the people from the government, they don’t separate regions of people, they don’t separate events from the people. They think of it as one thing, England, France, America, all mono-units. So when the government does bad things, as ours so frequently does, people think “America bad”; when they run into people from one of the more “abrupt” regions they think “America rude”; when some tragic event happens in a small town on the East Coast they think “America armed and dangerous”.

It’s a natural byproduct of the way our brain works, it doesn’t like gray areas, it doesn’t like complex concepts, it doesn’t like dealing with large numbers doing disparate things. It likes large, singular, easily defined blocks. And when one section of that block has been borderline evil for their entire lives then it brands the block. In the minds of people that aren’t going out of their way to separate the parts America’s government is America.


16 posted on 02/06/2013 1:18:16 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Why should the United States be considered the most evil country in history, and by its own elites?”

Because America has been the greatest hope for Freedom that the planet has ever hosted. America worked. America was right. That drives them CRAZY.


34 posted on 02/06/2013 3:38:42 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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