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White House: Obama would support new gun laws
http://www.politico.com/ ^ | December18, 2012 | By JENNIFER EPSTEIN |

Posted on 12/18/2012 12:46:21 PM PST by Hojczyk

OBAMA TO GO FOR GUNS

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/12/white-house-obama-would-support-new-gun-laws-152297.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhoguncontrol; bradywatch; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 12/18/2012 12:46:24 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
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2 posted on 12/18/2012 12:48:19 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: Hojczyk

I dare the prick to try..he wants a civil war, he will get one


3 posted on 12/18/2012 12:49:26 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Hojczyk

My answer is no.


4 posted on 12/18/2012 1:49:29 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Hojczyk
Why doesn't Obama go for getting help for Parents with troubled Children.
Let's try making it easier for People with a Mental Illness to get help and not wait until they pose a danger to themselves or others.
What you say Obie.

5 posted on 12/18/2012 2:00:31 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Hojczyk

Congress better stop this nonsense dead in its tracks.

Frankly, if the GOP fails to stop it, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NEED TO BE VOTED OUT, even if it means the entire congress and senate end up being nothing but damn democrats....


6 posted on 12/18/2012 2:02:05 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Hojczyk
Obama wants a gun ban. That's a given.

But do Senate Democrats? Sure, they might not lose their majority this time but they'll definitely lose some seats.

So the question is; which Democrat Senators are willing to be sacrificial lambs and bury their careers so that Dianne Feinstein can have a symbolic ban on bayonet lugs (because it sure as hell won't be Feinstein herself who gets tossed out of office).

7 posted on 12/18/2012 2:04:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Hojczyk

The politicians care not one whit about the citizens.
Their concern is their own skin.


8 posted on 12/18/2012 2:27:48 PM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s a bit of a DUH. “Never let a crisis go to waste.”


9 posted on 12/18/2012 2:34:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t think his civilian army of brownshirts is quite big enough... yet.


10 posted on 12/18/2012 2:37:00 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Hojczyk

11 posted on 12/18/2012 2:39:12 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Falcon4.0

Reason 1.

Liberals are the ones who responded to poor conditions to institutions by letting the mentally ill out into the streets with a prayer, instead of improving the institutions. The same is true of their tendency to open the jails and hope for the best of human nature. We need to rebuild the 150K mental hospital beds we had in the 1950s, put involuntary mental incarceration laws back on the books and put a lot of the “homeless” there. But the liberals are the ones who let them out in the 1960s in the first place. Doing what needs to be done is an admission the original action was wrong.

Reason 2

Liberals want the majority of the population to be a mass to be manipulated, with themselves as the elite. Plato versus Aristotle is the liberal-conservative divide today.
It is easier to consider your opposition crazy or stupid than argue facts, figures and rationality. They want masses of social workers policing the actions, behavior and even thoughts of everyone - not forcibly medicating and restraining if necessary the 1-3% of the population that is truly, severely mentally ill. Better to control men by pathologizing them in the guise of mental health than call it a police state. And the excuse is the mentally ill on the streets.

Reason 3

If nothing is anyone’s fault but society’s fault, how then does one explain evil? Excusing evil with a medical diagnosis is one way to explain it, and offers those who deny the existence of personal accountability a way to “cure” it. With, of course, more nanny-statism.

Reason 4

There is more money in making everything other than the perfect personality a mental disorder, instead of spending the resources on the small minority of mentally ill. More money = more power and more jobs for the elite.

Reason 5

To borrow from Atlas Shrugs, if you don’t have lots of mental disorders, you don’t have a way to control people. Parents whose children are labelled as ADD or opposition defiant can be forced into compliance with state supervision or loss of freedoms via a mental health diagnosis and threats of children taken away for failure to “treat” the diagnosis.

Reason 6

You can do a lot of political arm twisting in the guise of medicine. The Soviets invented “sluggish schizophrenia” to lock up those who didn’t see Soviet Russia as paradise. You could lock up and torture political dissidents without officially jailing them.
And there are plenty of liberals who think that conservatives are crazy. And I’ve come across psych surveys seeking to build up a mental disorder to fit “authoritarian, domineering, closed minded” into a mental disorder. Once invented, guns can be taken away in accordance with the mental illness controls on owning weapons, without overtly violating the Second Amendment. One simply declares are conservatives crazy, then takes them.


12 posted on 12/18/2012 2:40:25 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Vinnie

A government that does not trust the people to be armed
is in fact a tyranny.

It’s that simple, if they (our supposed government)attempt
to disarm us inspite of the constitution and bill of
rights, then they have given up the mandate of the people
and deserve what will happen to them. We can have no
common ground with tyranny.


13 posted on 12/18/2012 2:42:43 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I fear this effort will have legs due to the fact that so many little kids were killed.

Hope not, but I gotta bad feeling about this one.

Ain’t got one? Better go get one.


14 posted on 12/18/2012 2:44:18 PM PST by servantboy777
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15 posted on 12/18/2012 2:48:39 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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16 posted on 12/18/2012 2:51:08 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Gator113
Frankly, if the GOP fails to stop it, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM NEED TO BE VOTED OUT...

Yes, and we can all send them a sternly worded email too.

(rolls eyes)

17 posted on 12/18/2012 2:58:23 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: beltfed308; EdReform; kiriath_jearim; Red in Blue PA; JrsyJack

Bradywatch PING!!!


18 posted on 12/18/2012 3:15:22 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Windflier

Your eye rolling makes you sound like a stupid teenage girl. (adjusts)


19 posted on 12/18/2012 3:18:12 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Gator113
Your eye rolling makes you sound like a stupid teenage girl.

You just said that if Obama decrees a gun ban, and Congress does nothing to stop it, that we should "vote them out of office".

If that's your best response, then you may as well turn in your guns now.

20 posted on 12/18/2012 3:26:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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