Amendment IIA well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
MOLON LAVE!
End of conversation.
Posted on 12/17/2012 1:03:06 PM PST by neverdem
For once I agree with liberals. Its high time to have a conversation about guns. Lets start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.
Wait, we cant have that conversation. In fact, were not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a conversation at all. Were supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong. The conversation is then supposed to end with us waiving our fundamental right to self-defense.
Because that is what the goal is a total ban on the private ownership of firearms. Theres always another common sense gun law which fails because it is targeted at law-abiding citizens and not criminals, thereby inviting another round of onerous new restrictions until finally no citizen is keeping or bearing anything more than a dull butter knife.
Well, almost no citizens. Gun control means all guns under the control of the government and available only to it and, of course, to politically connected cronies. Gun-grabbing poser Michael Bloomberg is going to be surrounded by enough fire power to remake the movie Heat. Hes always going to be protected. The purpose of gun control is to ensure that we arent.
So lets have that conversation, and lets lay the cards on the table. Modern firearms (which really arent that modern) are highly effective weapons in the hands of an evil little freak who gets off shooting children. They are also highly effective weapons in my hands when defending my children from evil little freaks.
Liberals ask why I need these weapons. The answer is simple. Im going to be as well-armed or better armed than the threat. Period.
Heres the fact bad people are going to have guns. And if youve ever smoked a joint, you are disqualified from arguing that prohibition works.
So, while we are talking, lets talk about what we lawyers call causation. Since apparently we need a whole batch of new laws, perhaps we ought to see what laws might have prevented this crime. Well, we outlawed murder, but that didnt seem to help. We outlawed stealing, but that creep stole the guns from his mother. He transported them, took them to a school, loaded them all criminal violations, as was merely possessing the pistols at his age.
Well, maybe he would have been stopped by new laws. Maybe we could ban 30 round magazines? Well, when one walks into a class of children it is unlikely that a couple more magazine changes a relatively unskilled user can do it in three seconds would make much difference.
Maybe we could have better background checks. Wait, the creep stole the guns from someone who would have passed any background check. No causation there.
Well, then maybe the only real answer is to ban all semi-automatic weapons, which is pretty much every defensive weapon outside of shotguns and revolvers. Its also contrary to the Second Amendment and the constitutions of at least 40 states.
We should talk about the Constitution. Liberals have an amazing gift for finding things in it that have eluded everyone else. They have divined a right to abortion that the Founders apparently intended to enshrine within it, however subtly. However, they cannot seem to find where it holds that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Perhaps it is obscured by a penumbra.
Regardless, our conversation needs to address the tens of millions of Americans who bitterly cling to this right. Perhaps it should focus on just how the liberals propose to conduct this disarmament. They should probably start with who they assume would conduct this task. I highly suspect the advocates of turning government force upon its own citizens to deprive them of what they consider a fundamental right do not envision themselves strapping on body armor and locking and loading to go kick down the doors of people known to have guns.
So, since risking enormous violence as a consequence to turning government force on millions of armed American citizens who would believe their fundamental rights were being tyrannically breached is probably a non-starter, we should converse about reality. Liberals love reality, or so they are always saying.
The reality is that guns arent going anywhere. There are 300 million of them. We arent giving them up. So lets deal with the world as it is.
First, lets talk about some common ground. It was not news to anyone that the creep in Newtown had mental problems. I am not discounting his evil, but the fact is he clearly had mental issues. Can we agree that we need to look carefully at whether society can do a better job dealing with people like this before they crack up? Doesnt it make sense to deal with people who might be a threat instead of depriving millions of innocent, law-abiding Americans of their rights?
Lets return to the fact that we have nowhere near enough guns on the streets. In many states, concealed carry laws have been changed to allow citizens the ability to defend themselves nearly everywhere. The bloodbath liberals expected never materialized. Instead, crime fell. It turns out that ordinary American citizens dont turn into to sociopaths in the presence of a Glock 19.
Lets talk about how all American citizens should share this right, because many dont. In California, I need my local sheriff to sign off that Im competent. I served 25 years in the military with two tours in hostile fire zones. I carried weapons in uniform deployed to fires, earthquakes and riots. I oversaw the weapons training of thousands of soldiers. The government even spent tens of thousands investigating me, and then gave me a security clearance.
California considers me unfit to carry a gun outside my home. This is ridiculous.
Since we are conversing about guns, let me share some gun insights since liberals often dont know anything about them (Memo to the Media: Please learn what an automatic weapon is and isnt. Please.) First, I dont like carrying guns. Ive spent several years of my life carrying guns and I dont enjoy it. They are heavy and dirty and you are always aware you have it and you must behave accordingly. Guns are a pain. I would only carry one because the pain of watching people butchered while I looked on helplessly is immeasurably worse.
Lets also talk about this assumption that a citizen with a handgun out in public is no match for a creep in a vest with a long weapon. True, Id rather have a long weapon myself, but Im pretty sure that as I try to make a head shot his full attention (and his gun fire) are all going to be focused on me instead of on some kid. I doubt anyone with a concealed carry permit wants to get shot, but while it may not be in tune with the tenor of these selfish times, Id prefer that if someone had to get shot it be me facing the enemy instead of a civilian shot in the back.
Lets talk about gun free zones too. Liberals love talking about science and logic, yet their magical thinking when it comes to guns is staggering. Lets call gun free zones what they are killing zones.
You dont see mass shootings at gun shows, police stations or NRA conventions. Bad people go where they know there are defenseless victims. Gun free means that the innocents are defense free. A soldier in a sister unit to mine years ago was killed at Ft. Hood, where personal weapons are banned and military ones are in safes. He was shot while trying to attack the traitor with a chair.
Lets talk about allowing some personnel at schools to be armed and simply dismissing the idea with the declaration that it its absurd is insufficient. Israel arms some teachers lets look at their example. There are bad people out there. You cant wish them away.
And let me end this brief conversation with a question: Is there anyone who doesnt wish someone else at Sandy Hook had a gun?
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A great post. Thanks for putting this up for us to read!
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The author knows what he is talking about.
Needless to say, but the first one to raise a white flag of surrender would be John Boehner.
Does that make me a bad person?
First, there are already more than 20,000 gun control laws actively on the books today and none of them prevented the tragedy at Sandy Hook. Second, millions upon million of people in America own guns and 99.9999% of them have never and will never do anything like this.
So, lets lose the hysteria and analyze the facts - a PERSON did this, NOT a hunk of steel. In Portland, a PERSON killed two people in the mall, NOT a hunk of steel! In Denver, a PERSON shot up the theater, NOT a hunk of steel!!
NONE of these facts will matter to the gun-grabbing nanny-staters, because they focus solely on the gun and nothing else. So, what happens if ALL guns are outlawed and forcibly collected by the feds? Someone bent on committing mass murder may turn to knives, hatchets, chainsaws or machetes. So, we outlaw those. The next person to commit a heinous crime may use a bat, poison, poison gas or a semi-tractor. And the one after that may use a car, a pen or pencil, a rock, his hands . . . . . . so when do we blame the PERSON and NOT the inanimate weapon!???
The fact remains that until the left understands that murdering humans by ANY means including their favorite method, abortion, human life will be valueless and more copycats will come out to exercise their demented mass murder of innocent people.
All of that said, it occurs to me that the gun-grabbers are from the leftist school of complete control. What that means is that if 1 person commits a gun crime then, under the leftist theory of the “collective” and “groupthink”, they believe that ALL gun owners will commit mass murder unless they eliminate guns (good luck with that!). So, the calls for more gun control by the left after these incidents is twofold - eliminate the “balance of power” the Founding Fathers so carefully wove into the Constitution and gain total control over the people.
Another part that affects all of this is the fact that laws, whether gun laws, robbery laws, or whatever, are written solely to affect law-abiding citizens. People who commit crimes are called “outlaws” and criminals because they DON’T adhere to the laws created to control or stop their illegal activities.
So, should the left create additional gun control laws, will it prevent the next gun-related crime? Of course not. Laws only affect those of us who obey them. Those who disregard the law won’t be stopped from committing whatever crime they want to commit.
As a final note, Adam Lanza did not own the guns he used to murder all of the people at Sandy Hook Elementary. They were his mother’s guns and they were all legally purchased and registered. Which begs the question, what will any NEW gun control laws accomplish?
Great article that cuts through the B.S.
The rifle is fine.
The muffin top is not.
I might consider bloomturd serious IF and when he dismisses his armed guards.
If the utopia of a gun free world is the result of their idiotic rants, let him PROVE his belief in it.
Once again, they have the talent for going after the gutter dwelling voters.
The old ‘kiss’ applies here - give up yours bloomy, lead by example!
JMO, but I think that the murdering creep’s attention would be entirely concentrated on his helpless victims since at that moment he is getting his supreme jollies.
He might not even notice that someone with CCW is about to blow the back of his head off.
Amendment IIA well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
MOLON LAVE!
End of conversation.
My wife is a teacher and she has her CPL. If Governor Snyder signs the bill on his desk, then she will be able to carry concealed on school grounds.
But you know damn well that even if Snyder does sign it (which seems highly unlikely now, after Newtown and after the backlash from signing the Right To Work legislation) that her school district will institute a policy forbidding employees from carrying concealed in the classroom.
We had that conversation over two hundred years ago and it was settled THEN. Everything we hear now is an argument over semantics...and since no one really uses the English language the way it was meant to be used in the first place, all ‘arguments’ are moot. There is no ambiguity in “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” I hear nothing that changes that in the slightest.
If you want to play the semantics game, there is nothing there that tells us what arms, what kind of arms. How many. Where. Or even why. It is ASSUMED to mean firearms. So if they can ASSUME that, when it doesn’t REALLY say that, I guess they DO understand the thing and simply will not admit it which makes them liars and psuedo-imtellectual hypocrites.
With all them Obama Thugs running around out there one would be nuts not to own a gun.
And wasn’t it Obama that threatened “if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” I have never threatened anyone with a gun.
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