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Are Republicans Already Blowing the Next Election?
The New Republic ^ | December 3, 2012 | John B. Judis

Posted on 12/03/2012 4:56:26 AM PST by teflon9

In the beginning, [Club for Growth] targeted liberal Republicans ..., but it now extends to politicians like Lugar, Capito, Saxby Chambliss and even ... Speaker Boehner, who [normally] would be considered conservative. The Club and its allies see themselves as “insurgents” against a Republican “establishment” ... Republicans, Ramesh Ponnuru wrote in National Review, have to [be] “the party of middle-class economic interests.” “It won’t kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires a little bit,”... Bill Kristol opined.

But the Club and its network blame the Republicans’ and Romney’s defeat on their not being conservative enough. “The first lesson” of Romney’s defeat, Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation wrote, “is no more moderate Republican candidates.” ... Ignoring Mourdock’s defeat in Indiana, [Rep. Chris] Chocola cites ...victories of ...Cruz in Texas and ...Flake in Arizona as evidence that when Republicans take Club positions rather than “electable” moderates, [they'll] win.

If [they're] active for 2014 and 2016 ... [they'll] almost certainly make it more difficult for the Republicans to retake the Senate and [White house]. The Club and Tea Party groups successfully backed ... Sharron Angle in the 2010 Republican Senate primary against an “establishment” conservative who might have beaten ...Reid. This year, they [bet] on Mourdock in Indiana. And if the Club's opposition to Capito is any indication,[they'll] do similar damage to the Republican cause in 2014.

West Virginia ... has gone Republican in the last four presidential elections, because, ... voters there see the national Democrats as hostile to coal and guns. But pro-gun, pro-coal Democratic politicians ... continue to hold most of the state offices and both Senate seats ... West Virginia’s white working class voters, ... still see the Democrats as the party of the New Deal safety net and spending on roads and bridges and schools.

(Excerpt) Read more at tnr.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hardcore; kamikaze; primaries; purity
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Club for Growth may kill what it professes to love.
1 posted on 12/03/2012 4:56:35 AM PST by teflon9
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To: teflon9

There’s going to BE a next election?


2 posted on 12/03/2012 4:58:17 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Old Sarge

There’ll be a next election. Heck even the Soviet Union had elections. Of course 99% of the people voted for the state candidate, kinda like they did in Philly where 99% voted for Obama.


3 posted on 12/03/2012 5:03:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: teflon9

Isn’t that what The New Republic wants the GOP to do? I haven’t looked at that publication in years but it’s always been a liberal one according to my memory.


4 posted on 12/03/2012 5:04:00 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: teflon9

IMO this author has one “H” of a cleanup behind the ears situation if he ever pulls his head out of his rectum.


5 posted on 12/03/2012 5:04:00 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: teflon9

Those of us who consider ourselves Tea Partiers need to acknowledge that the movement has resulted in some studs-Rubio, Paul, Toomey eg-as well as some duds-O’Donnell, Angle eg.

I prefer that the risk of this continue; I’d rather lose a few than maintain the GOP establishment status quo.


6 posted on 12/03/2012 5:10:29 AM PST by almcbean
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To: teflon9

Republicans are constantly playing second fiddle to Democrats who continually outsmart them. The Republicans focus more on not upsetting Democrats and planning their losing defensive strategy rather than a winning offensive strategy.


7 posted on 12/03/2012 5:13:14 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: ReformationFan

The New Republic?

I don’t want a “New Republic”, a restoration of the “Old Republic” is a better solution.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 5:13:34 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: teflon9

A dar left wing rag like the new republic is so concerned about the GOP !!
Sure!!

Why do Obama newsletters like this crap alway give us advice ???
To hang ourselves with !


9 posted on 12/03/2012 5:21:04 AM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: teflon9

So what? the Republicans have controlled the House for two years. All spending bills originate in the House. There is still a $trillion deficit. The Democrats could conceivably top that, maybe.


10 posted on 12/03/2012 5:27:45 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: teflon9

“West Virginia’s white working class voters, ... still see the Democrats as the party of the New Deal safety net and spending on roads and bridges and schools.”

The commie twit doesn’t mention that conservatives and republicans now control 30 states, which is up from 25 in 2010. Rats are getting thrown out of state legislatures by the hundreds. In some states. there’s not a single rat who holds a state-wide political office.

If conservatives are wondering where the political power lies, it’s in the states. Use it.


11 posted on 12/03/2012 5:31:21 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: teflon9

What next election? Its all over except for the shooting.


12 posted on 12/03/2012 5:37:12 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: teflon9

The Club for Growth has given us the only semblance of conservatism is Washington. The Senate three years ago had maybe had a single person I would save from an oncoming bus...including our side of the aisle. Today, we have DeMint, Rubio, Johnson, Toomey, Lee, Rand Paul, Portman, Aloyette, Fischer, and Cruz.

We now have a base of principled people who not only vote better, but can get on tv instead of McCain, Graham, Grassley, and the old guard. Same in the statehouses.


13 posted on 12/03/2012 5:55:44 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: teflon9

It is time for a complete NEW party. . . . . . . . . .


14 posted on 12/03/2012 5:58:06 AM PST by DeaconRed (Is it time to give up? Hell NO It is time to fight the commie bastards for our beautiful country.)
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To: teflon9
It really doesn't matter anymore. President Cloward-Piven's singular goal of overwhelming the system is withing sight.

Once it happens, the next goal of killing 10% of the US population to show us who's boss comes on deck.

15 posted on 12/03/2012 5:58:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: DeaconRed

And run the CINO’s out of town on a rail. . . .


16 posted on 12/03/2012 5:59:49 AM PST by DeaconRed (Is it time to give up? Hell NO It is time to fight the commie bastards for our beautiful country.)
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To: almcbean

I know we are on side, but somehow Murdock is a grand failure, but no one talks about Connie Mack, Tommy Thompson, and George Allen who all lost easy races. They were all old guard, safe choices that the ‘establishment’ wanted over newcomers who would have been more conservative and responsive to the base.

Mourdock was an easy win if he didn’t make one mistake. He blew it in message discipline, but he was already a statewide office holder and should have won easily.

In a bigger issue...whoever was responsible for these Senate campaign messaging needs to be run out of town...all of the above should have walked easily into office. Yes, the presidential race was the main driver for voters, but in almost all the cases above, the the Senate candidate lagged Romney by a decent margin. The Senate failures this time can’t be tied to any one type of candidate, it was a universal failure.


17 posted on 12/03/2012 6:01:08 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"who's boss.

He don't want to find out just how many of US there are. . . .

18 posted on 12/03/2012 6:02:51 AM PST by DeaconRed (Is it time to give up? Hell NO It is time to fight the commie bastards for our beautiful country.)
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To: teflon9; bert; fieldmarshaldj; RobbyS; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”But the Club and its network blame the Republicans’ and Romney’s defeat on their not being conservative enough. “The first lesson” of Romney’s defeat, Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation wrote, “is no more moderate Republican candidates.” ... Ignoring Mourdock’s defeat in Indiana, [Rep. Chris] Chocola cites ...victories of ...Cruz in Texas and ...Flake in Arizona as evidence that when Republicans take Club positions rather than “electable” moderates, [they'll] win.
If [they're] active for 2014 and 2016 ... [they'll] almost certainly make it more difficult for the Republicans to retake the Senate and [White house]. The Club and Tea Party groups successfully backed ... Sharron Angle in the 2010 Republican Senate primary against an “establishment” conservative who might have beaten ...Reid. This year, they [bet] on Mourdock in Indiana. And if the Club's opposition to Capito is any indication,[they'll] do similar damage to the Republican cause in 2014. “

This type of civil war will certainly help Dems.
We have to side with either Romney or Angle? that is the debate?? If so we are screwed.

I like Stephen Moore, but:

If Club for Growth is saying that House Republicans should not pass a bill raising taxes, then I agree 100%. Doing (giving in on that) that will only destroy the R party and help Obama.

BUT If Club for Growth is saying that House Republicans should refuse to extend ANY tax cuts unless O+Reid cave and affirmatively take action to extend them for millionaires and billionaires (you know the Dem talking points)too then that is party suicide, as it was a year ago with FICA.

Lets try some sanity here. Romney ran almost his whole campaign on those tax cuts so the Romney-versus Angle analogy above makes little sense.

19 posted on 12/03/2012 6:04:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems want to win.The GOP wants to whine. Why dont they fight to win like Dems do?)
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To: teflon9
But the Club and its network blame the Republicans’ and Romney’s defeat on their not being conservative enough.

Looks like they are on a RINO hunt. This is bad thing?

20 posted on 12/03/2012 6:04:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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