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'2016: Obama's America' filmmaker--I am not having an affair
fox news ^ | october 17, 2012 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 10/18/2012 5:13:46 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: Hulka; Durus

I’m referring to his contention that he did not realize that being “engaged” while still married would be frowned upon in the milieu in which he operates. This is an intelligent and educated man; I’ve been reading his stuff since the 80s. He’s been active in evangelical/nondenominational Christianity for decades. Either he is being deliberately obtuse, or he’s so befuddled by the new young romance that his common sense went missing.


21 posted on 10/18/2012 6:33:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: Durus

Traditionally, Christianity has allowed for separations - even permanent ones - but not remarriage afterwards.


22 posted on 10/18/2012 6:37:38 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: Durus

“Are you suggesting that Christianity forbids divorce?”

I am suggesting that if you divorce you are forbidden to marry someone else...you know that pesky phrase “Till death do we part”


23 posted on 10/18/2012 6:37:49 AM PDT by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: I Shall Endure

You need to mark out a very specific time that you want to call “tradition” in order for that to be true.


24 posted on 10/18/2012 6:47:10 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: heylady

What if “til death do we part” is not one of the vows?


25 posted on 10/18/2012 6:51:06 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

How about forsaking all others as long as we both shall live? I am not the Judge, I just try to obey the laws. I told you my interpretation of the law but you will have to stand before the Judge yourself.


26 posted on 10/18/2012 7:02:29 AM PDT by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Saul Alinsky should also be in that poster with Larry,Mo and curly.


27 posted on 10/18/2012 7:09:31 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Tax-chick; Durus

Thanks.

But my honest question remains: How would you have responded?

Please explain what you would have said and how, or are you suggesting he should not have responded at all?

Thanks.


28 posted on 10/18/2012 7:33:14 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Rappini
Saul Alinsky should also be in that poster with Larry,Mo and curly.

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29 posted on 10/18/2012 7:46:27 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Tax-chick
Yeah, the wounded naif act is a little weak. I wouldn't be surprised if he also claims to have no idea why his wife wanted a separation.

I suspect that you are a vile and bitter creature.

30 posted on 10/18/2012 7:47:55 AM PDT by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: heylady

Different marriage vows are very common now. The vows you may have taken don’t apply to others. Get over it.


31 posted on 10/18/2012 7:49:19 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Tax-chick; ottbmare

I wouldn’t be surprised if he also claims to have no idea why his wife wanted a separation.


So...why exactly did his wife want a separation? I don’t know and I suspect you don’t either.

He was separated from his ex for two years. I’d say his first marriage was pretty much over.


32 posted on 10/18/2012 8:17:51 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: Hulka

Since I haven’t started a new relationship without ending my marriage, I don’t know what I would say under the circumstances. I think it’s fine for him to give more accurate facts, if the other writer’s claims were incorrect. I also think it’s disingenuous for him to say he never considered anyone would find his actions inappropriate.


33 posted on 10/18/2012 8:21:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I don’t know. Never said I did.


34 posted on 10/18/2012 8:23:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Will this be on the test?)
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To: heylady

Marriage is a covenent, an agreement. If one side breaks the covenent the other is no longer bound.

Jesus said divorce is allowed in the instance of infedility.

We don’t know the circumstances that led to the split. Should we simply assume its his fault? Afterall, according to the liberal pop culture, all men are pigs and idiots (last sentence is intended as sarcasm).


35 posted on 10/18/2012 8:27:58 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: lowbridge
The man's marital life; his life since his marital separation, and his sleeping arrangements at a conference, are alike none of the public's business, totally irrelevant to the validity of his recent intellectual work product--which must stand or fall on its own merit--and totally irrelevant to whether Mr. Obama is morally, intellectually or in any other way, fit to be President of the United States.

This is the sort of red herring attack on an individual that appeals to people whose prime joy is gossiping about the faults of other people. But it appeals not in the least to decent people, who know how to mind their own business.

Once again, the Left appeals to all that is base in the human character, to protect a truly base demagogue..

William Flax

36 posted on 10/18/2012 8:35:50 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: lowbridge

gutter journalism breeds gutter politicians and ‘journalists’ aka jihadist mediaites


37 posted on 10/18/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: melancholy

Jeez, mel. Now that image will be in my mind for the rest of the day! LOL!!


38 posted on 10/18/2012 9:07:56 AM PDT by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: Truth29; pieceofthepuzzle; wagglebee; xzins; Lazlo in PA; Antoninus; AmericanInTokyo; ...
2 posted on Thu Oct 18 2012 07:18:16 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by pieceofthepuzzle: “The left share many traits with radical Islam, including justifying the telling of lies in order to push their agenda.”

14 posted on Thu Oct 18 2012 08:13:57 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Truth29: “Since politics is now a 24/7 blood sport, the reporter and the editor should now be investigated and attacked legally and in the media wherever possible.”

World Magazine is not by any stretch of the imagination a liberal publication. World Magazine is a conservative Christian magazine, definitely on the right wing even of conservative Christian politics, and its editor, Dr. Marvin Olasky, and founding publisher, Joel Belz, are both elders in the Presbyterian Church in America.

Here's the link to the World Magazine article so we know what we're talking about:

http://www.worldmag.com/2012/10/king_s_crisis

I agree that this looks like President Obama’s past “MO” of attacks on his critics. Some might argue this is an Obama story “planted” in a conservative Christian magazine to “launder” the accusation. I've seen that done before, and I've personally been “used” by Democrats to attack fellow Republicans and sometimes fellow conservative Christian Republicans when I was given stuff that I couldn't ignore without being accused of covering them up.

However, we can't credibly say that.

In fact, if anything “smells” about this, it might be that the editor, Dr. Marvin Olasky, resigned from D’Souza’s college a while ago for reasons that were not widely explained in public at the time. At most, maybe someone could argue this is an internal fight based on revenge between World Magazine and Kings College. However, my read of this is that the questionable relationship between D’Souza and this young woman had been known for some time in circles of that college, and World Magazine showed great restraint in not publishing what was being discussed until D’Souza started escorting this woman around in public at conservative Christian venues. It could no longer be ignored at that point.

Divorces, separations, and marriage breakdowns happen in Christian circles. Christian leaders are under tremendous pressures, and I believe they're complicated by Satanic attacks.

When these things happen, we have to follow biblical standards. D’Souza was raised Roman Catholic and he now describes himself as a non-denominational evangelical; his (current) wife is an evangelical. Annulments are not easy in the Roman Catholic Church and I very much hope divorce is not easy in whatever church now holds D’Souza’s membership.

What we cannot do is whitewash the problems as if they don't exist.

For better or for worse, we'll know much more soon.

39 posted on 10/18/2012 10:12:03 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: ottbmare

I did find his statement, that he was “unaware” that in christian circles it might be frowned upon to get engaged while separated but not divorced, to be off-putting. At first, I thought maybe he wasn’t a christian, and was simply noting that he would have taken christian mores into account if he understood them.

But clearly he is a christian, in some sense. So I just wonder what circles he has been running in, that it was a surprise to him.

BTW, I actually don’t have a problem with engagement before divorce. Engagement isn’t particularly “christian”, it is simply a state of pre-marriage, one that doesn’t mean so much as it used to mean, or meant in religious contexts. The fact that they have broken off the engagement shows how this isn’t a biblical meaning of the word “engagement”.

If you know when your divorce is scheduled to be completed, I see no problem with planning your next wedding before you hit that date.

I also oppose divorce, but if the other person asked for the divorce, there isn’t a lot you can do about it. And since we have no clue as to the circumstances, it hardly seems reasonable to me to speculate as to whether he was responsible.


40 posted on 10/18/2012 11:32:49 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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