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The Long Shadow of Vietnam: Review of Comrades in Arms: How the Ameri-Cong Won the Vietnam War
Original FReeper review | 10/2/2012 | Fedora

Posted on 10/02/2012 9:21:09 AM PDT by Fedora

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Roger's book has numerous quotes from Giap, but I don't see anywhere he addresses the Cronkite discussion you're talking about, which there are some details on here. I'll see what I can find out about that. Roger does quote Giap telling CBS' Morley Safer this:

The most important result of the Tet offensive was it made you deescalate the bombing and brought you to the negotiation table. It was therefore a victory….The war was fought on many fronts. At that time (Tet) the most important was American public opinion.

--A 1989 Safer interview of Giap, quoted in Howard Langer, The Vietnam War: An Encyclopedia of Quotations

21 posted on 10/02/2012 8:51:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Darksheare
Thanks for the additional info. Looks like that would be The May Incident, involving Andrew J. May:

Historian Clay Blair claimed that May was responsible for a major release of highly confidential military information during World War II, known as the May Incident. In that incident, U.S. submarines had been conducting a successful undersea war against Japanese shipping during World War II, frequently escaping Japanese anti-submarine depth charge attacks. However, the deficiencies of Japanese depth-charge tactics were revealed in a press conference held in June 1943 by Congressman May on his return from a war zone junket. At this press conference, May revealed the highly sensitive fact that American submarines had a high survival rate because Japanese depth charges were typically fuzed to explode at too shallow a depth. Various press associations sent this leaked news story over their wires and many newspapers (including one in Honolulu, Hawaii), published it.[3]

It was subsequently discovered that Japanese naval antisubmarine forces were adjusting their depth charges to explode at a deeper depth. Vice Admiral Charles A. Lockwood, commander of the U.S. submarine fleet in the Pacific, later estimated that May's security breach cost the United States Navy as many as ten submarines and 800 crewmen killed in action.[3] A report from the U.S. Navy's Pacific Submarine Fleet determined that Japanese ASW forces failed to uncover the maximum test depth ability of U.S. fleet submarines during the war.[4] However, the report made no finding as to whether Japanese ASW forces altered their depth charge attacks to deeper settings as a consequence of May's revelation to the press.

I wasn't familiar with this before you mentioned it, so I will need to follow up on that. Thanks for drawing my attention to it!

22 posted on 10/02/2012 8:55:58 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

That’s the one.
And ever since then, members of our government have had a grand time selling us out to the press for “atta boys” as they turn around and sell us out to the enemy.


23 posted on 10/03/2012 8:58:59 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Fedora

True all of that. Nor do I know the whole story, but the impression only gets stronger with all of the seemingly unconnected parts. I don’t like to think poorly of a fellow alumnus, but everyone’s human. Peace.


24 posted on 10/03/2012 9:46:57 AM PDT by DPMD
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