US Veterans Forcibly Sequestered in Mental Hospitals is Indefinite Detention (Vets Locked Up)

Documenting Reality ^ | August 27, 2012 | Susanne Posel

[Minutemantek]

Passing both Houses doesn’t make it constitutional, legal or right. Also, can someone explain to me how or why these problems with vets can be any more acute when compare to 10 to 20 times their number were exposed to combat for longer and with more intensity and live on as the greatest American Generation? Maybe, it because they didn’t have a victim mentality or that the rest of the country was supportive. Or, one of a hundred other things that have changed in the structure of our society; chief among these the will to win…

[opentalk]

Agree, this is bigger than just Obama, Romney has voiced his approval of NDAA. Congress also keeps approving funding for TSA expansion.

U.S. asks judge to undo ruling against military detention law (NDAA)

[archy]

Naturally, these dangerous returning veterans cannot be allowed to own firearms.

That’s the agenda.

Naturally, those who are not veterans cannot be trusted to vote. That's the better alternative.

Voting and science fiction almost inevitably brings up Robert Heinlein’s novel “Starship Troopers.” In that novel, the voting franchise was limited to “veterans”. A “veteran” was not necessarily someone who had been a soldier, but rather someone who had volunteered for a two-year stint in “Federal Service”. Whether a soldier or not, these service jobs were apparently all fairly hazardous. Only after retiring from federal service could you vote or hold public office. The book focuses mostly on the soldiers, so both fans and critics tend to look on the rule as “only combat veterans get to vote,” even though the book made it clear there were non-military paths.

The argument for this was that the responsibility of voting should be reserved for those who have demonstrated an understanding of individual sacrifice for the greater good, i.e. voting is not about getting something for myself but about getting something for everybody else. Whether or not Heinlein himself felt that the voting franchise should be so restricted, the book makes a fairly passionate argument for it.

[Hot Tabasco]

if local judges, VA and Mental Health people are going along with this, it opens up the opportunity to detain almost any vet they want to detain,

Considering what my best friend had to go thru back in the 80's to get his vietnam vet brother put into a mental hospital, I'd say this is a move in the right direction.

The brother developed schizophrenia and despite all the attempts by my friend to get the brother help, it wasn't until winter was coming on and the brother was still living on a beach in northern Michigan that he was able to get the local judge to declare the brother incompetent and sent to the state hospital in Traverse City........

Mental illness is not an easy diagnosis and virtually every person who suffers from it is a seperate case. There is no easy answer to the problem nor will there ever be a blanket solution.........

[archy]

This is consistent with DHS report on terrorism by returning vets. They are trying to make the case.

It has to stop.

Do not hold your breath. U.S. troops at Ft. Stewart plotted to kill Obama?

[Mrs. Don-o]

I see what you’re saying. I would say the abuse can go in either direction: its hard to get real mental health counseling, treatment or therapies for people who are clearly sick and suffering; and all-to-easy to “diagnose” social and political dissent as mental illness, as in the widespread and well-documented, and massive apparatus of Soviet psychiatric abuse.