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To: MHGinTN
Not intending to defend the ‘materialist magicians’, but does a thought exist in a spacetime sence?

The short answer to your question is No, thought does not exist in space/tune. Thought is a mental event and Dualist believe are immatrial. Physicalists refute this saying mental events supervene on physical but then fail to offer an epistemic and ontological explaination. This is what I was telling Betty in the post.

{The term materialist magician, I now remember, was the term C.S.Lewis used in The Screwtape Letters instructing the junior demon to delve not-too-deep into the scriptures, and that their goal was to produce a secular scientist materialist, but one who is open in his thinking to acquire those techniques of the Shaman who is a 'traditional nature worshiper' such that the human would acquire the teachings of the Shaman, all the while declaring a devotion to materialism and scientism.}

273 posted on 09/11/2012 10:18:31 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Texas Songwriter; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
And my short reply is, YES, a thought is generated via aspects located in spacetime, thus it must have some linkage to the spacetime coordinate system in order to be created. BUT, our current conceptualizations of dimensions space and time and life and spirit are so weak that we are unable to 'dream of reality' beyond our sensing patterns. If a thought exists inside The Universe God created, then a thought has some aspect variability relationship to the dimensions which God created to define that Created Universe. [Now for the longer ramble, if you wish to tune out at this point.]

There is of course the possibility that dimension life (the dimension from which God brings forth our soul to be united with our body) is not dimension space nor dimension time, but a separate dimension, and that the spirit comes forth from yet another dimension which, too, is not dimension space or dimension time. Will we ever search for the threshold by which another dimension of God's Creation comes to intertwine with the dimensions we sense, like space and time?

I've been cogitating on the threshold linkage between dimension space and dimension time. Over the past decade I've conceptualized 'a' how these two dimensions became intertwined during the earliest Creation of God's Universe for our existence. But we know by indirect association that the Universe God Created for our existence has more than just dimensions space, time, and life force, for we humans have been blessed with a spirit dimensionality, and God has instructed us that the spirit aspect is 'timeless' in the sense that it exists 'eternally' in a state of 'God-life' or a state of 'God-death'. Jesus taught on this but His disciples didn't catch it well enough to opine over it in ways that our epoch of humanity would recognize.

I am of course operating this line of reasoning on the notion that what is the Universe for our existence is not God, that God is all that is outside the Universe of our existence yet God Created this Universe, upholds the statistically impossible balance of same, and permeates this Universe by His Word and Will.

Axioms/corollaries of what I contemplate might read something like the following: what is not the Universe IS God; what is not God, is the Universe God created/creates. God may choose to bond with some aspects of His Creation. ... There is no where when which God cannot reach; there is some part of what God has created or will create which God will not choose to reach 'into'.

274 posted on 09/12/2012 9:35:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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