Posted on 06/25/2012 4:53:08 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
When I went T.A.D. to Boat Crew {Liberty Launches} in ports where we anchored out we wore dark blue ones. They were highly functional. They could call it the Navy just say no to crack policy LOL.
I wear coveralls all the time now. I don't even own a pair of pants.
Yea our old ones look like airline pilots too. I was glad to see the traditional uniform restored and so were others.
Some of the other changes they made were pretty questionable, but I would have been more than happy to switch out the dungarees for BDU-type uniforms. Dungarees were hot, smelled weird, and were hard to maintain. If you brushed up against any recently painted surface (which I seemed to always find every single one of onboard ship), then they were ruined. With the new working uniforms, you don’t look like you just escaped from the pen, and if you happen to get a little paint on them, it just blends right in.
The Marine Corps got it right while the Army screwed up & I’m ex Army . The “digital” pattern is to help spoof night vision , the Multi-Cam pattern is excellent & is being used just not service wide issue yet. To many Pentagon types more interested in fashion statements rather than will this pattern help conceal GI’s in a combat zone.
Great we got camouflage that works in gravel pits & on ugly couches but if you are out in the woods you stick out like a sore thumb.
That pattern looks downright “Hawaiian” to me!
When the Marine Corps decided it needed updated utilities, none of the other services wanted to bear the R&D costs, but of course wanted to use the developed pattern. Bear in mind that most things the Marine Corps gets is second hand. So the Marine Corps developed MARPAT utilities.....the other services are welcome to use them; it ll just say USMC all over it.
But, if the Army ever decides to invade a gravel parking lot, their ACUs will blend right in.
MARPAT is a descendant of CANPAT and is essentially a different color set of CANPAT with some added elements like the USMC logo. The problem with ACU isn’t the pattern, it’s that they chose the wrong colors - ACU is MARPAT/CANPAT with yet another different set of color choices.
When the Navy started the wear testing of their new blue trouser and khaki a elderly lady was attending a ceremony at Pearl Harbor. Some of the people in attendance wore period uniforms and color guard was Navy. She wanted to know why the Sailors were dressed in SA uniforms, she thought it was disgraceful. The Navy “blueberries” are just plan stupid some Navy Master Chief had to have the cool digs just like the ground war fighters. Now the Navy blue digs are the butt of jokes and are certainly not cool.
Air Force is wear testing that pattern now, but just for camp at the Pentagon!
Air Force is wear testing that pattern now, but just for camo at the Pentagon!
My lord if they laid down on the asphalt behind them I might not see them in a parking lot, or falling out of an airplane, just curious what they are camouflaged for in the first place.
As a CHief if you had primer on your new blue digi uniform, you bought a new pit. They still wear coveralls to protect the damn expensive trousers.
Either I am having problems with spell check or one too many scotch, paint on a uniform is still paint it does not blend in and I would make my Sailors replace the uniform just like the dungarees.
Not the first time I’ve been made aware of substandard outfitting. No doubt the consequence of poor contracting and production planning; not to ignore the spontaneous nature of war.
LOL - that’s great!
I'm not sure if the pattern is produced any more, but it was great in fall grasslands and wheat fields.
The Army never wanted MARPAT.
When the Marines wanted a new uniform, they came to The Army (Natick Soldier Support Center) to do the design work. The US Army had already been working on digital camo since the early 1980s and did some experimentation on a large scale with the 14th ACR.
The Marines always let it be known that the uniform design was USMC only and the Army agreed to that at the very beginning. The Army was actually leaning towards Multicam, but a top NCO overrode the decision of the design team and selected ACP.
How could you get it so wrong.
The Army was working with digital camo since the early 1980s.
It was the Marines who came to the Army for help, and this was admitted by the two Marine scout-snipers who started the USMC MARPAT program. The Army designed the uniform and pattern for the USMC. But, when it came time to select The Army’s uniform, all the research was ignored by a single NCO on the project.
Please look around the USMC and find the second-hand equipment. Osprey’s, new M1A2 tanks, new rifles, gear, commo. The days of the USMC getting Army castoffs are long past.
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