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To: Ken H
How many F-ups does it take for it to get through the court’s heads that this is wrong?

As long as we have people giving full throated backing to the war on drugs - such as comparing marijuana possession to rape and other heinous crime, and issuing apologias for violations of the Tenth Amendment - the number is without limit.


I find it rather childish for you to act like no-knock raids are a given if we don’t legalize drugs.

That's not what I said. Ending federal drug prohibition would not make drugs legal anywhere in the US. Feds have no enumerated power to either criminalize or legalize drugs within a state's border.


Hate to break it to you, but it's pretty much what you said.

Tell you what butter-cup, how about providing a link so folks can read the full context of what you're refering to if you're going to quote me.

Do states set their own border policies?  How about their immigration policies, do they set them?  Do states set their own tariffs, and trade policies?  Can the federal government even federalize their national guard troops?  Is there a Federal Bureau of Investigation?  Does the FBI and Secret Service operate in all fifty states?  Are there federal statutes that they can enforce?  Do the states set Internal Revenue Policies, and enforce them?

Hmmm, I guess the states don't have all the power.  Who knew?

The federal government has set drug policies so that they are uniform between the states.  The federal laws on drugs have been judged to trump state laws.

You hang in there with that Tenth Amendment thing.  Good luck.

Why don’t you join me in attacking a very oppressive tactic we can agree on?

Certainly.

LOL, certainly?  Judging from you prior response and this one on the matter, it's not certain at all that you'll join me.

But I hope you'll understand, I'm leery of folks who are willing to support violations of some parts of the Constitution, such as the original Commerce Clause and the Tenth Amendment.Well, you'll have to pardon me for thinking you'd rather argue about making drugs legal than join others in eliminating a very dangerous and threatening policy.

As for your interpretations of our Constitution, it seems to me you have a railroad tie in your eye, and are trying to get the splinters out of every elses eyes.  I do apprecaite your willingness to help though.  Well, okay..., I don't.


62 posted on 06/18/2012 7:16:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s not within the enumerated powers of Congress to ban or restrict simple possession of illicit drugs within the borders of a state. Period. (Gonzales v. Raich and its predecessor, Wickard v. Filburn, were wrongly decided.) So your bringing up other, quite different, area that are with Congress’ Commerce Clause power is irrelevant.


65 posted on 06/18/2012 7:55:12 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: DoughtyOne
Do states set their own border policies?

No. Congress is delegated that authority under the power to regulate foreign commerce and to repel invasions.

How about their immigration policies, do they set them?

I believe that power was delegated to Congress by I.9.1, if memory serves.

Do states set their own tariffs, and trade policies?

Congress was delegated that power under I.8.3 (foreign commmerce), and states are expressly forbidden to do so.

Can the federal government even federalize their national guard troops?

Yes. Congress shall have power...

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

-snip-

The federal government has set drug policies so that they are uniform between the states. The federal laws on drugs have been judged to trump state laws.

Would you tell us which section of the Constitution you believe delegates to Congress the authority to regulate intrastate drug policies?

66 posted on 06/18/2012 7:58:00 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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