Posted on 06/13/2012 6:47:50 AM PDT by Kartographer
The line of people desperate for lunch is an image more from the developing world than the country where Western civilization was founded more than two millennia ago. Yet the 1,200 who waited for bread, rice and vegetable soup at a kitchen visited by CNBC this week are just a fraction of the many hungry people in Athens and the surrounding area, as the noose of austerity tightens around the Greek population. The elderly and sick are fed first. Men get their food next, and there are plenty of scuffles in the line as women and children wait patiently for their turn.
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Yes! I’ve already been corrected on this.
"Now, Schäuble says, the Greek people can vote how they like, the electoral result and the composition of a new government will have no effect on policy in Athens."
Reminds me of the old Lufthansa joke where the pretty stewardess steps into the coach section, flashes a lovely smile and says, "You VILL enchoy your flight."
What an odd comment. Your parents went through the Depression without noticing it. I doubt either of your parents were this insensitive.
My mother survived the Depression very well but her memories were vividly horrible of what occured. Her mother’s memories were even worse. My father went from Harlem Heights to a Brooklyn tenement in the 1930s. He never recovered from this and we would find him hoarding pennies and dimes when he was quite wealthy. And these were city people - not country people who got it much worse.
Sheesh!
What an odd comment. Your parents went through the Depression without noticing it. I doubt either of your parents were this insensitive.
My mother survived the Depression very well but her memories were vividly horrible of what occured. Her mother’s memories were even worse. My father went from Harlem Heights to a Brooklyn tenement in the 1930s. He never recovered from this and we would find him hoarding pennies and dimes when he was quite wealthy. And these were city people - not country people who got it much worse.
Sheesh!
My favorite applicable quote:
“You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.”
— Ayn Rand
A practical demonstration of the truth of that proposition is just around the corner.
” Out of control borrowing and spending, leading to governmental bankruptcy is not the issue, it’s the eeeevil austerity measures “
‘We bribed you with cake, and cake, and more cake — so that now there’s no money left to give you bread..’
Austerity is just a big word for Broke, in this context....
While soup kitchen work for a short time, a better solution is to set up labor intensive co-op farms that can produce an abundance of food. They are set up as minimum wage jobs, with all wages put into the bank as savings, with (barracks) room and board in exchange for labor. Adult men on one farm, and adult women on a different farm.
Since they can’t spend their money for a fixed time, it makes the bank more stable. The people are neither homeless nor unemployed. And they are producing inexpensive food desperately needed by the rest of their country.
Once the country’s food needs are met, then new farms work on producing specialty crops of high value for sale as export to the EU.
Then a modified program leaves agriculture entirely, to make labor intensive products of other kinds, partially finished products that can then be sold to existing businesses to be finished prior to commercial sale.
Normally such labor is done in developing countries, but it needs to return to Greece to provide production infrastructure. That is, raw materials to unfinished materials. This implies some degree of trade protectionism, which is necessary in this case.
Boy are you a throwback! What an rare concept in 2012 USA. God luv-ya brother! I appreciate all your prepper posts. Thanks Kart-man.
Did you get my Freepmail the other day?
I did - been on the road of late, so my correspondence isn’t the best. Great advice, my friend, and we’re acting on it. Large animal vets are also well-supplied with “crossover” items. Come the apocalypse, we’ll all have sturdy hooves and shiny coats...
Wiiiiiillllburrrr!
Preview of the Deep Blue Dem Cesspool cities like Detroit in 2014.
I am sure there was lots of propaganda from the government, my in-laws did fine also....the lazy never do well. But you did help your neighbor if needed...Hard times makes hard people and we needed hard people for the war that came and ended the depression...
“She believes it’s important to feed immigrants in case they become desperate enough to turn to crime. “If the Church doesn’t feed the immigrants...then nobody will and the criminality will reach its zenith,” she told CNBC.”
This would be true for the Greeks in line to eat at other soup kitchens. No food equals crime.
I wasn’t aware that some cities in the US don’t feed the poor now. When the collapse comes here, millions will need food. All should store food now if you haven’t done it already.
Can't you just see this being done here. Feed all the illegals first so they don't rape and murder us all. All the while ignoring the fact they need to be shipped back from whence they came.
During the depression, my father had a job in the east Texas oil field that was booming. They also had a garden and canned food for the winter. He raised two pigs every year and slaughtered them in the fall and had a meat house for that meat during the winter. Pork sausage was also made from that meat.
They grew up without power and knew how to live well by doing it themselves.
When I began prepping in 1998, I assumed there would be no power, and I would have to live like they did growing up. That was a good example for me to follow.
And my great grandparents thought Reconstruction was a breeze!
I think everyone of us could look around the house and find oddles of stuff we don't need, but we want them. There was no AC when I was a kid, you kept the drapes closed in the daytime and opened at night to let the cool breeze blow in...I didn't even know what air conditioning was, or TV or computers and all the electronics. Push lawmowers was great excercise. Didn't need 15 pairs of shoes, a shoemaker on the corner could put new soles on your shoes and they were as good as new....
I am not saying I want to go back to those days, but we better be prepared to let loose of lots of expensive toys. And do it without complaining....
People our age had good examples of what was really necessary to live a good life....my parents would be reading books every night...they may not have graduated from school but were a hell of a lot smarter than many today....
how long would NYC last if they had to go through a Great depression? Weeks? days?
look at the movie atlas shrugged.
There was a man holding a sign, “MBA, CEO, will take ANY job”
How about the stock brokers selling apples in the 20s?
How about the recent hong kong car dealer selling a 200k car for 25k because he need cash immediatly?
When I was a kid, Detroit was the 4th largest city in the country. People were not use to the nanny state that fed and clothed them. People took care of themselfs and as far as men holding up signs like **will work for food*, you can find a few of them today. We had no homeless, we had lazy bums that panhandled. They became a victim class sometime in the 70’s and homeless sounds so much better than being a bum.....Every city had its own *skid row* where the bums hung out looking for a hand out....now the government gives them money and they get pissed if they don’t get their fair share......as the bible says......He who will not work, does not eat.......much wisdom in that book...
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