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Scientists Late to Recognize Human and Giant Mammal Coexistence (article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-30-2012 | Brian Thomas

Posted on 05/30/2012 11:41:28 AM PDT by fishtank

"Giant mammals roamed North America during the Ice Age, but were humans among them? A site in Vero Beach on Florida's East coast contains mammoth, mastodon, giant ground sloth—and human fossils. The problem is that humans were not yet supposed to have been there, according to the standard story told to generations of archaeologists.

When discovered in the early 1900s, researchers insisted that the Vero Beach human remains washed in long after the large mammals fossilized. But new results, like so many other similar reinvestigations of old sites, show they were made at the same time and that humans lived and died in North America long before believed. What took researchers so long to acknowledge that?

The reason why it took so long for the evidence to come to light may be the same reason why fossil evidence of humans and dinosaurs is so scarce."

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Awesome article.
1 posted on 05/30/2012 11:41:36 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

We are liberals! We believe in Science!!

Until it produces facts that disagree with our beliefs. Then we argue, name call, question your motives, and, finally, reject the facts.


2 posted on 05/30/2012 11:48:04 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: fishtank

How retarded. Of course humans and mammoths coexisted—whom do they think created all those cave paintings?


3 posted on 05/30/2012 11:50:11 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: fishtank

I love the smell of Strawmen in the morning.


4 posted on 05/30/2012 11:55:04 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: fishtank

So, this article is pointing out that a fairly long-held scientific view (hardly “dogma,” as the writer puts it) is being disproved by a growing mass of new information. And so?? It happens frequently.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 11:58:27 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: fishtank
That humans & mammoths coexisted is not news. Or even in dispute.

Of course, ICR wants people to make the leap that humans & dinosaurs coexisted. Because any other scenario is downright unbiblical.

6 posted on 05/30/2012 12:03:21 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Clara Lou
It happens frequently.

But that's kind of the point. People who do not buy into the concept of macro-evolution and typically brushed aside: "Bug off! I'm a scientist! Who are you???"

But then things change, and the scientist who was so sure of himself is found to be wrong, and now has a new conclusion, which is once again unassailable: "That's how science is done! Now we know more! This time the science is settled! Bug off!"

It's not science. It's scientism.

7 posted on 05/30/2012 12:06:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Clara Lou

but we creationist have been telling ‘science so-called’ for years, they were wrong and we were right...that is why it is being pointed out....


8 posted on 05/30/2012 12:09:20 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It’s scientism.” No, it’s “ego.”


9 posted on 05/30/2012 12:09:57 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: fishtank

Pathetic. Is this what its come to? The ID’ers at least attempted to formulate some sort of intellectually respectable alternative to abiogenesis. This is just silly.

Biologist: We’ve had to revise our estimates as to when humans populated this particular region.

ICR: SEE!! DEM SCIENTIST DUN KNOW NUFFINZ!

Lordy lordy...


10 posted on 05/30/2012 12:13:07 PM PDT by gzzimlich
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Pathetic. Is this what its come to? The ID’ers at least attempted to formulate some sort of intellectually respectable alternative to abiogenesis. This is just silly.

Biologist: We’ve had to revise our estimates as to when humans populated this a region.

ICR: HURR!! SCIENTIS DUN KNOW NUFFINZ!!

Lordy lordy...


11 posted on 05/30/2012 12:14:20 PM PDT by gzzimlich
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To: fishtank
But new results, like so many other similar reinvestigations of old sites, show they were made at the same time and that humans lived and died in North America long before believed. What took researchers so long to acknowledge that?

They can't acknowledge that Indians were not the first native Americans.

It would damage their victim status.

12 posted on 05/30/2012 12:15:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: raygunfan

okey dokey


13 posted on 05/30/2012 12:16:51 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: fishtank

“The problem is that humans were not yet supposed to have been there, according to the standard story told to generations of archaeologists. “
??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Clovis first is pretty much out the window and most palaeontologists and anthropologists believe man was here before the Clovis extinctions of the Pleistocene Megafauna.

To my knowledge, they ACKNOWLEDGED the presence of clovis projectiles in Mammoth bones.


14 posted on 05/30/2012 12:23:46 PM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: fishtank

Alley Oop’s family?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz6IpmmYSXA


15 posted on 05/30/2012 12:28:51 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Darteaus94025

The PC history of North America says that the natives were living here well in tune with nature, and each other, and everything was fine for millennia until the Europeans showed up and “raped the Earth”.

The mass extinction of all those cuddly mammoths caused by the Native Americans just does not fit into the liberal mythology.

The inner part of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State was not tread by man until some white Americans did it well into the nineteenth century. The deer and other large mammals there had never seen people and were quite fearless of them. Now imagine two whole continents full of mammals who had never seen people until the natives arrived. Easy pickin’s for that expanding edge of humans who first arrived.

Mammoth - it’s what’s for dinner.


16 posted on 05/30/2012 12:30:25 PM PDT by BigBobber
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“Scientists Late to Recognize Human and Giant Mammal Coexistence.”

I had no idea that the relationship between humans and NBA Basketball players went that far back into antiquity. /s


17 posted on 05/30/2012 12:36:44 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (There are only two classes of people left in the U.S. - Producers and Parasites.)
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To: Darteaus94025
The fact is, there is/was a consensus among scientists that huge mammals and humans did not coexist. When there is a consensus, it is fact.
Is not this what they are telling us about Globull Warming?
18 posted on 05/30/2012 12:39:41 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: fishtank

All I had to do is read the title to know where this came from.


19 posted on 05/30/2012 12:39:48 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: fishtank

Aren’t atheist ‘sceintists” arresting people for making creationist claims in scientific results? ;)


20 posted on 05/30/2012 12:46:26 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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