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Notre Dame sues Obama Administration over HHS rule
The Washington Examiner ^ | May 21, 2012 | David Freddoso

Posted on 05/21/2012 8:26:45 AM PDT by theruleshavechanged

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To: DesertRhino

A careful reading of my post will show that whether they want to or not, NDU must take this path. When they invited Obama he was the newly elected POTUS who had overseen nothing but Porkulus. He was the first black POTUS and as such was an historical figure. Now he and his minions have determined that the Catholic Church may not live by its belief system. That is an attack on Catholicism. The icon of the Catholic college in America had to take this course or forever forfeit its place in the American/Catholic firmament. I doubt Jenkins wanted to go here, but he had no choice.


41 posted on 05/21/2012 1:01:42 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I wonder why they bother going to church.


42 posted on 05/21/2012 1:35:34 PM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Regardless of the recent liberal politics of many Catholics, this should earn Catholics our support and appreciation on this effort. Paraphrasing that other famous/infamous Catholic, JFK, “Ich bin Katholisch” regards the Church’s efforts against 0bama.


43 posted on 05/21/2012 1:36:01 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: xkaydet65

Just as a heads-up, few will know who you are talking about by using NDU ... it’s UND ... University of Notre Dame... :)


44 posted on 05/21/2012 2:15:04 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Yes he did. :o/

Called "honorary," but not by me.

45 posted on 05/21/2012 3:11:34 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West.")
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To: Heart-Rest
"Conscience?" One would hope so ; although it could be he was just stuck between a rock and a hard place. Maybe Bishop Jenky caused some sway? :)

Here's a book review of What Happened to Notre Dame by an alum, Tom O'Toole, '81 (aka Fighting Irish Thomas). Charles Rice wrote and called Tom thanking him for the review...

Link.
46 posted on 05/21/2012 3:34:22 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: theruleshavechanged
I wonder if Barry Soetoro knows that abortion is generally forbidden by Islam after the first 4 months of gestation.

Of course the supreme ruler knows better than all the religions of the world.

47 posted on 05/21/2012 3:49:09 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: laweeks; Le Chien Rouge; Tzimisce; TopDeadCenter; marshmallow; stephenjohnbanker; Stingray51; ...
It's not justy ND, it's 43 Catholic dioceses and institutions involved in this lawsuit against the Obamacare juggernaut.

43 is no more than a tiny representative sample, but it's a start.

I don't know what religion most FReepers are (unless they wear their denomination on their sleeve, in their FReepername or their tagline) but... how about it, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Baptists & Jews....you gonna sit on the sidelines tossing peanut shells...or are you gonna step up to the plate?

48 posted on 05/21/2012 4:07:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West.")
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Freepers, Just a little note.

Just $497 to go for YELLOW.

Where is the YELLOW?



49 posted on 05/21/2012 4:16:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Was this the very same school/U that invited the One several years ago and then when IT demanded, they removed the cross from the background or am I getting old and senile and imagining things? - (Don’t you dare answer that one if that’s the case!)


50 posted on 05/21/2012 4:43:14 PM PDT by Chong
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To: Mrs. Don-o

” Called “honorary,” but not by me. “

He already has 2 phony degrees from Columbia and Harvard...how many phony degrees does a man need ?

: )


51 posted on 05/21/2012 4:50:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: mlizzy
Thanks for the link for that book review.    It was a good one.

(There were some other interesting things at that "Fighting Irish Thomas" web site you linked to, including the article by Tom on Fr. Corapi.   I've been trying to learn what has become of him lately as well, but so far I can't seem to find any really recent updates.    I hope that he too turns around his situation, and gets himself back on track as well.)

52 posted on 05/21/2012 7:25:44 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ( Abortion Kills Children)
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To: xkaydet65

‘...to the vast majority of Americans [UND] IS America’s foremost Catholic university...”

Sorry. That illusion does not pass the stink test.

“...the Golden Dome, Touchdown Jesus, and Pat O’Brien as Rockne ... All these identify [UND]...”

Sorry. Sentimental football movies from long ago, and
expensive pieces of architecture, built long ago by the donations of previous generations, do not make up for the lack of orthodoxy in the classrooms and the administration today.

“...Notre Dame cannot stand aside while the American Church is attacked for its beliefs.”

But Notre Dame can stand aside, and it has stood aside; and worse, it has often joined in the attack on the Catholic Church. [There is no such thing as the “American Church”].


53 posted on 05/21/2012 11:58:32 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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To: laweeks

Frankly given the cost of collage tuition, I am at a loss to explain why anyone would give any money to any collage.


54 posted on 05/22/2012 1:05:53 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We should only express delight and encouragement when Father Jenkins locates his backbone and does the right thing.

I figure that Jenkins only joined in the lawsuits so he could traitorously report back legal strategy to Obama and the abortionists.

If the other litigants are smart they'll completely isolate Jenkins and the Notre Dame team so he can't harm their lawsuits.

55 posted on 05/22/2012 7:39:36 PM PDT by RJL
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