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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well said, and agreed.

BZ


581 posted on 05/04/2012 11:29:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Lazlo in PA

Thanks Lazlo - you prove the old truism that your best friend is your enemy!

I’d wave the Newt flag, but yeah, that is a bit tattered now ....


582 posted on 05/04/2012 11:31:01 AM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: EnglishCon

You attacked a poster who I respect.

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Back up there - my little TBL friend.

I didn’t attack Lazlo. It was mscs or whatever her screen name is.

Not sure why you and Lazlo both got off with wrong replies, but that happens when you troll two forums at once.

lololol


583 posted on 05/04/2012 11:31:37 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you always misquote people?

/johnny

584 posted on 05/04/2012 11:31:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim Robinson; everyone

One thing I’d like to see on FR, as we look to 2016, is a general consensus on the ONE candidate FR is maybe officially supporting.

Not to ban supporters of any other candidates, but, as a site, to support one.

The problem as I see it, in the past two primary seasons at least, is that the conservatives have been split over several (flawed, human) candidates and even potential candidates - and the moderate emerges as a winner.

If we don’t generally coalesce around ONE candidate early on, we will repeat ourselves. Let’s learn from history rather than repeat it.


585 posted on 05/04/2012 11:31:52 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Are you talking to me?

I was wasn’t talking you to you.

Or maybe you have a link to where I misquoted you.


586 posted on 05/04/2012 11:33:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: advertising guy

See (so far) posts 72, 81, 150, 405, and 523.


587 posted on 05/04/2012 11:33:32 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional and social conservative Republican who wants to win)
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To: basil

“guess I could vote for Ron Paul-—he looks better when he’s compared to O and R.......”

Paul didn’t laud Bradley Manning as a patriot. At least Romney is a serious American.


588 posted on 05/04/2012 11:33:39 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: MHGinTN

Amen to your posr, MHG, and well said.


589 posted on 05/04/2012 11:34:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was wasn’t talking you to you.

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Yeesh! Should read...

I sure wasn’t talking to you.


590 posted on 05/04/2012 11:35:28 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: reaganaut

That aspect will be clearly in play as well. Noticing on threads those who are supportive of that element, and that agenda ,though oftentimes discretely so or surrounding their post with other flavorable wordage, as is the custom, yet it does bleed thru.

Romney winning will definately enhance that nationwide...no two ways about it...and we can expect a host of propaganda about it flooding the inter net and the airways. They are prepared to do so.

It’s another front on this war, fought behind the scenes for the most part....should he win it will come front and center for them...and we’ll be certain to see that as so.


591 posted on 05/04/2012 11:35:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: JRandomFreeper

“...I will not vote for Obama or Romney...”

I’m not telling you how to vote or who to vote for, friend. Wouldn’t presume to do so, and it’s kind of not anyone’s place to do so to other people.

I’m just looking for ways to start replacing “the establishment GOP” that keep giving us the lesse ro ftwo evils choice, and trying to understand how to do it.

Seems to me this is the place to figure it out. Lot of good solid minds out here.


592 posted on 05/04/2012 11:36:46 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!"

I agree, excepting that I'll continue to argue against people who believe Romney is acceptable. I will not be forced onto a cattle car by anyone. RomneyCare is the pure assumption of all power to the state from the individual. I will not bow down.

Otherwise, I'm all on board the Conservative Tea Party wagon!

593 posted on 05/04/2012 11:36:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; MSSC6644
I am talking to you, newb. You purposefully misquoted MSSC6644.

/johnny

594 posted on 05/04/2012 11:37:58 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; reaganaut

And exposing RINOs is the first step in replacing RINOs...

Good idea.


595 posted on 05/04/2012 11:38:31 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: TexasCajun
We're doomed! Doomed, I tell ya.

I'm gonna sing the doom song now!

Doom doom doom doom doom,
doom doom do DOOM,
DOOOM doom do-doom,
DOOM do-doom doom doooom,
doom doom dooom, do-do-DOOOM!

(6 months later)

Doom doom doo doom doom,
DOOMY-DOOMY-DOOM,
doom do do DOOM,
Do do DOOM,
doomy-doomy-doomy,
Doom doom dadoom doom THE END

596 posted on 05/04/2012 11:38:50 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Nothing false about it! In the end you will have either Romney or Obozo! That is a FACT and YOU know it!


597 posted on 05/04/2012 11:38:50 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: struggle
"I’ll vote Romney no matter what. Obama MUST lose."

I understand 'the lesser of two evils' inclination. Some of you can do that. I can't.

To me, the Presidential Race comes down to the relative light reflectivity of your jailer / executioner.

598 posted on 05/04/2012 11:39:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: struggle
"I’ll vote Romney no matter what. Obama MUST lose."

I understand 'the lesser of two evils' inclination. Some of you can do that. I can't.

To me, the Presidential Race comes down to the relative light reflectivity of your jailer / executioner.

RomneyCare is too much for me to stomach, ever.

599 posted on 05/04/2012 11:40:30 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: July4

“. I will vote for Romney to get rid of Obama,”

Exactly, I view my vote for Romney as a vote against Obama.

In the primary I intend to vote Virgil Goode. I’d truly prefer him as president as much as I know about him.


600 posted on 05/04/2012 11:40:37 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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