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The Movement To Torch The United States Constitution
The New American ^ | May 2012 Issue | James O. E. Norell

Posted on 04/25/2012 4:10:01 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen
And you believe that the bunch that is in the Supreme Court now will go against their god [obama] wishes and overturn obamacare? If they do, it will either be a miracle or an accident.

obama doesn't. If he thought it would be overturned, why is he secretely and behind the scenes transferring money from medicare to the IRS to enforce it? Why did the IRS order so many shotguns?

21 posted on 04/25/2012 5:33:03 AM PDT by sport
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To: know-the-law
“The US Constitution and Bill of Rights released the world from institutionalized slavery.”

Sorry, but you are a slave still...

Please enlighten us.

22 posted on 04/25/2012 5:41:23 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: BilLies
That is one ugly face. So full of hate, so full of evil.All any roach exterminator has to do is make a lot of color copies of it and distribyte them throughout the place they are treating and stand back a watch the roaches flee in terror. I know that I would hate to come face to face with it.

Or far as that goes, if the cops made a color copy of it and put it in front of everyone they interrogated, informed the suspect that they had to look at it until they confessed, they would get confessions in record time. I would confess to things you did.

23 posted on 04/25/2012 5:43:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: IbJensen

I guess my South African friends didn’t realize how much better South Africa was, when they moved to Texas and got their US citizenship! They thought they were just moving to escape all the crime, violence and corruption. snort>///S


24 posted on 04/25/2012 5:44:23 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Le Chien Rouge

These evil characters that the current occupant of the White Hut has surrounded himself with proves beyond the shadow of doubt that he is not merely unfit. Obama is inherently evil beyond a decent man’s capacity to measure evil.

Those who form his inner circle are as devoid of decent humanity as is a wild boar hog.

He demonstrates his evil by reaching down into the sewers to select beings for key positions that existed and for those that did not exist until he was crowned. These evil ones he appoints have neither character, or a modicum of goodness in their being.

We, my fellow Americans, are being ruled and ruined by members of the netherworld. They are no better than ghouls, zombies or manufactured monsters.

Another full year of us will be about the same as lobotomizing America and turning this once great nation into something much worse than a banana republic without the bananas: a cemetery!

These frightening, bottom feeders hate and despise everything that is innocent and good. They wallow in depravity and encourage its growth. Anything that pleases satan is advanced by these evil anti-American monsters.

How is it that we came to this?

It is my opinion, that although sub-creatures such as these existed in our past, the accelleration began about 1912 and the first president to call upon these forces of darkness was noneother than Woodrow Wilson.

The only way to combat this evil that has descended upon America is to pray to God and St. Michael the Archangel to cast into hell all the evil spirits who prowl about the earth seeking the ruination of souls!


25 posted on 04/25/2012 5:44:27 AM PDT by IbJensen ( I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what 0 does with mine)
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To: mo

The constitution guards our country from the sinful nature of man. The left can’t stand or even understand that concept.
They’re “good people”, and anyone whom they support are also “good people” who would never abuse their power and always do what is good for everyone, even if it seems to be oppressive in the short term.


26 posted on 04/25/2012 5:44:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cheburashka

I think the best summation of “rights” are the Ninth and Tenth Amendments:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

and

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Basically, that seems to translate into “If it is not a power delegated to the Federal Government by the Constitution, then the Feds can’t do it, and they can’t stop the States and the People from doing it.”

Too bad this isn’t the cornerstone of Federal Jurisprudence.


27 posted on 04/25/2012 5:45:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: BilLies
That is one ugly face. So full of hate, so full of evil.All any roach exterminator has to do is make a lot of color copies of it and distribyte them throughout the place they are treating and stand back a watch the roaches flee in terror. I know that I would hate to come face to face with it.

Or far as that goes, if the cops made a color copy of it and put it in front of everyone they interrogated, informed the suspect that they had to look at it until they confessed, they would get confessions in record time. I would confess to things you did.

28 posted on 04/25/2012 5:45:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

BTTT


29 posted on 04/25/2012 5:54:29 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: IbJensen

Torch the Constitution?

Over my dead corpse...


30 posted on 04/25/2012 6:04:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: IbJensen
Thanks for the excellent, if emotionally-deflating post. While conservatives bicker and fret over Presidential politics and the admittedly poor choices now offered them, the Left continues its relentless march toward one-world statism and a redistribution of wealth for the benefit of client groups eager to buy their way into dependency.

And what a non-shock to learn that the bank teller window for the anti-Constitutional movement is manned by none other than George Soros.

31 posted on 04/25/2012 6:12:16 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: IbJensen
Any "constitution" that limits the power of our supreme overlords is a bad constitution.

The best constitution is one that grants absolute power to them.

32 posted on 04/25/2012 6:17:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: IbJensen

that commie judge also consults European law during supreme court cases, and should be tried for treason.


33 posted on 04/25/2012 6:37:54 AM PDT by chainsaw (Sarah Palin is still my first choice to save the USA. . .)
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To: IbJensen
Judges 17:6

In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

JUDGES being the operative idea.

34 posted on 04/25/2012 7:03:27 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: hal ogen

...by legal means, of course.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Yes the laws of physics...... rope....tree or lamp post.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 7:15:17 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: SERE_DOC

Are you willing to accept the truth???

Are you an “American” citizen or a “Statutory” citizen of the united states???


“The fourteenth amendment reads: ‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.’

In The Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, it was held by this court that the first clause of the fourteenth article was primarily intended to confer citizenship on the negro race, and, secondly, to give definitions of citizenship of the United States and citizenship of the states; and it recognized the distinction between citizenship of a state and citizenship of the United States by those definitions; that the privileges and immunities of citizens of the states embrace generally those fundamental civil rights for the security and establishment of which organized society was instituted, and which remain, with certain exceptions, mentioned in the federal constitution, under the care of the state governments, while the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States are those which arise out of the nature and essential character of the national [143 U.S. 135, 161] government, the provisions of its constitution, or its laws and treaties made in pursuance thereof; and that it is the latter which are placed under the protection of congress by the second clause of the fourteenth amendment.

“In Gassies v. Ballon, 6 Pet. 761, 762, Mr. Chief Justice MARSHALL declared that ‘a citizen of the United States, residing in any state of the Union, is a citizen of that state;’ and the fourteenth amendment embodies that view.”
[Boyd v. State of Nebraska, 143 U.S 135 (1892)]

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United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649; 18 S.Ct. 456; 42 L.Ed. 890 (1898):

“The words ‘in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’ in the first sentence of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution, must be presumed to have been understood and intended by the congress which proposed the amendment, and by the legislatures which adopted it, in the same sense in which the like words had been used by Chief Justice Marshall in the wellknown case of The Exchange, and as the equivalent of the words ‘within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States,’ and the converse of the words ‘out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States,’ as habitually used in the naturalization acts. This presumption is confirmed by the use of the word ‘jurisdiction,’ in the last clause of the same section of the fourteenth amendment, which forbids any state to ‘deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.’ It is impossible to construe the words ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’ in the opening sentence, as less comprehensive than the words ‘within its jurisdiction,’ in the concluding sentence of the same section; or to hold that persons ‘within the jurisdiction’ of one of the states of the Union are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.’”

“The fourteenth amendment came before the court in the Slaughter-House Cases, 16 Wall. 36, 73, at December term, 1872, — the cases having been brought up by writ of error in May, 1870 (10 Wall. 273); and it was held that the first clause was intended to define citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state, which definitions recognized the distinction between the one and the other; that the privileges and immunities of citizens of the states embrace generally those fundamental civil rights for the security of which organized society was instituted, and which remain, with certain exceptions mentioned in the federal constitution, under the care of the state governments; while the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States are those which arise out of the nature and essential character of the national government, the provisions of its constitution, or its laws and treaties made in pursuance thereof; and that it is the latter which are placed under the protection of congress by the second clause. “

“And Mr. Justice Miller, delivering the opinion of the court, in analyzing the first clause, observed that “the phrase ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign states, born within the United States.”

“The eminent judge did not have in mind the distinction between persons charged with diplomatic functions and those who were not”

“This section [in Elk v. Wilkins] contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only, —birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’ The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject to some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards, except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.”
“To be ‘completely subject’ to the political jurisdiction of the United States is to be in no respect or degree subject to the political jurisdiction of another government. [including state governments].”

“”Born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” and “naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” mean born or naturalized under such circumstances as to be completely subject to the jurisdiction,—that is, as completely as citizens of the United States, who are, of course, not subject to any foreign poser, and can of right claim the exercise of the power of the United States on their behalf wherever they may be.”

“The power of naturalization, vested in congress by the constitution, is a power to confer citizenship, not a power to take it away. ‘A naturalized citizen,’ said Chief Justice Marshall, ‘becomes a member of the society, possessing all the rights of a native citizen, and standing, in the view of the constitution, on the footing of a native. The constitution does not authorize congress to enlarge or abridge those rights. The simple power of the national legislature is to prescribe a uniform rule of naturalization, and the exercise of this power exhausts it, so far as respects the individual.”

[United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649; 18 S.Ct. 456; 42 L.Ed. 890 (1898)]


This video should help as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6b4YrXayzE


36 posted on 04/25/2012 7:21:39 AM PDT by know-the-law
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To: IbJensen
That *witch* should be impeached for that statement alone. And if I was in the House I'd have been drawing up the Articles of Impeachment right after that statement became public.

Yes, the senate wouldn't convict, but it'd put her through legal hell for some time. And during that time it 'should' make her ineligible from taking part of all pending cases before SCOTUS.

37 posted on 04/25/2012 7:34:58 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: SERE_DOC

If th first video wasn’t sufficient to convince, you then try this one...

http://www.dirtyunclesam.com/

If you need more proof [or anyone else], then just say so and I will dig up all of the proof you need later.


38 posted on 04/25/2012 8:26:19 AM PDT by know-the-law
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To: IbJensen

“He has demanded that websites be forced to include opposing views, because of “the growing power of consumers to ‘filter’ what it is that they see.””

Dude, we can “filter” out anything at this point. TV commercials and annoying internet ads have trained us well.


39 posted on 04/25/2012 8:38:59 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BilLies

“...looks like the dead mother in the movie Psycho....”

Did you ever notice that ALL the good comrades look just plain psycho in general?

They ALL look alike to me. Instantly interchangeable, completely replaceable, and totally contemptible.


40 posted on 04/25/2012 9:54:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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